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  • Rumdog
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Mar 2009
    • 6453

    #16
    Yeah, if the ride pads arent flat, it will make all the difference in the world.

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    • blackcat26
      High Speed Junkie
      • Sep 2009
      • 1598

      #17
      OK tried moving batts all the way to the front and raised the strut again with the 442. Still bouncy. Looked at the last ride pads and they are concave in the middle. I'm guessing that this is the problem??? So, should I fill them with something? Or try to sand em flat. Looks too deep to sand the dip out of them.
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      • Rumdog
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Mar 2009
        • 6453

        #18
        wow, that much? I'd add material from the inside. Then sand flat.

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        • blackcat26
          High Speed Junkie
          • Sep 2009
          • 1598

          #19
          Didn't measure it but looks like just under a 1/16 or so.
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          • blackcat26
            High Speed Junkie
            • Sep 2009
            • 1598

            #20
            Got some brass shim and some plastic thin strips that will cover up the ride pads for a test run. Gonna tape em on for a quick run to see if it kills the skipping. Will post some pics tonight.
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            • blackcat26
              High Speed Junkie
              • Sep 2009
              • 1598

              #21
              Taped the gap up with some masking tape then put a layer of duct tape over the entire last step. No changes, still bouncy. Had the batteries hanging over the front of the tray about an inch. Should I try and tape the other steps??? Somebody help before I pull my hair out!
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              • Diesel6401
                Memento Vivere
                • Oct 2009
                • 4204

                #22
                Originally posted by blackcat26
                Taped the gap up with some masking tape then put a layer of duct tape over the entire last step. No changes, still bouncy. Had the batteries hanging over the front of the tray about an inch. Should I try and tape the other steps??? Somebody help before I pull my hair out!
                I was thinking of running the batteries inside the sponsons themselves and not on the tray. It would allow the batteies to be placed further forward then the trays allow and also lower the cg. It was gonna be my next step. If it works I was going to cut the battery trays in half and still allow part of the tray to maintain support.
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                • Rumdog
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 6453

                  #23
                  Where is the cg with batteries all the way forward? Too much forward weight can also cause bouncing. I'd flatten the pads a bit with sanding. Set the cg at about 30 percent, then try different strut adjustments.

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                  • Jeff Wohlt
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2716

                    #24
                    Got a hull and hardware coming so I will be building one.

                    Setup:
                    180 ESC,
                    leopard 4074..2200 kv
                    4S 5000 40C cells
                    642 to start.
                    078 wire drive.
                    Tactic radio
                    www.rcraceboat.com

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                    • Diesel6401
                      Memento Vivere
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 4204

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Rumdog
                      Where is the cg with batteries all the way forward? Too much forward weight can also cause bouncing. I'd flatten the pads a bit with sanding. Set the cg at about 30 percent, then try different strut adjustments.
                      I moved batts forward and aft to no change with the bounce. I thought the x642 may have had to much pitch, but every video I see has the bounce. In my video on 5s you can really see the bounce. It's not out of control and for a newbie they prob wouldn't care or know the difference, but for us we kinda get more critical of our set-ups and try to perfect or boats. All n all I really love this boat!

                      Jeff let me know if the 4074 will fit with the tupperware. I eyeballed mine and it looked like it would be to long for the tupperware lid to fit on, but that was a eyeball and I wear contacts so my eyes suck. That is if you are using the lid of course.
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                      - Diesel's Fleet
                      "It is easier to be wise for others than for ourselves"

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                      • blackcat26
                        High Speed Junkie
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 1598

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Rumdog
                        Where is the cg with batteries all the way forward? Too much forward weight can also cause bouncing. I'd flatten the pads a bit with sanding. Set the cg at about 30 percent, then try different strut adjustments.
                        The first part of my run I had the batts basically centered in the trays. Right at about 8.5 inches for sponson back. The second part of the run I moved them far forward to try and fix the issue. The forward Cg was about 9" from sponson back edge. Prop has just a little negative angle with the CenterLine about the bottom of the sponsons.
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                        • befu
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 980

                          #27
                          Block sand the pad lightly to see where the curve is, then fill it with some spot putty and let dry. Sand/fill/sand/fill/sand until it is flat. You do not want to just sand it down flat as you will change the sponson height to much if you are off by 1/16". that is actually quite a bit if it is that deep of a curve! You shouldn't have to add any material to the inside of the hull, sanding way to much if you get into the glass. You want to flatten the ride surface, not change the hull shape.

                          Spot putty comes in a tube (maybe 8 oz) in the automotive section by paints and bondo at wally world or at auto part stores. Spread it on with a piece of plastic or other straight edge and let dry, do not make it to thick.

                          good luck, Brian

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                          • blackcat26
                            High Speed Junkie
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 1598

                            #28
                            Befu, I may do that Man I hate putting the grit to a new boat! I measured the dip and in it's lowest spot it about .04 deep. Is the spot putty better than Bondo? I realize it's made by Bondo. You are talking about glazing putty right? Should I do just the last steps or the ones before also?
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                            • Jeff Wohlt
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 2716

                              #29
                              Every run I have seen looks like everyone is trying to run it like it has no steps....on the very last bit of the hull...which will make it teeter. The boat should ride more flat and touching the second step. Just my opinon and what I see on real cats. I think and will try running mine with more power and bit flatter.
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                              • blackcat26
                                High Speed Junkie
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 1598

                                #30
                                Hmm. I did notice mine was like that tonight. Maybe it needs some weight up front??? My batts were about 1" overhanging the front of the tray with the prop just a little neg and it still ran like that.
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