Adding a capacitor to the Turnigy Aquastar 120 A speedy

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  • properchopper
    • Apr 2007
    • 6968

    #1

    Adding a capacitor to the Turnigy Aquastar 120 A speedy

    My Jersey Skiff has a rather long run between the speedy and the batteries now that I found the correct CG by moving the batts to the back. Even with dedicated cooling to the SC it comes in a little too hot for comfort, so to reduce the ripple current* I'm thinking an additional cap will help . ( *Actually I prefer Ripple Strawberry but that's another story )

    Stripped the batt wires close to the SC and tinned them

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    prepped cap; shrink on cap wires keeps it insulated

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    soldered on SC wires

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    insulated solder joints with shrink & secured with a larger band of shrink

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    Nothing new here, just thought someone might be helped by this.

    Tony
    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
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  • m4a1usr
    Fast Electric Addict
    • Nov 2009
    • 2038

    #2
    It can never hurt to repeat the good stuff Tony. Not sure why but OSE has boat loads of info, yet so few bother to do a search. They just ask the same questions that have been answered a hundred times.

    John
    Change is the one Constant

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    • properchopper
      • Apr 2007
      • 6968

      #3
      Originally posted by m4a1usr
      It can never hurt to repeat the good stuff Tony. Not sure why but OSE has boat loads of info, yet so few bother to do a search. They just ask the same questions that have been answered a hundred times.

      John
      John, Sad but true. I actually thought this would be too redundant to post.
      2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
      2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
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      • jimi911
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 205

        #4
        Just finished doing that on my old C80 Cuda ... part of the reason I still have the old girl :)

        I really like the anti spark setups. Saved a lot of equipment watching my caps like a hawk and installing anti-spark on everything
        www.whittingtonracing.ca

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        • sanyijr
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2008
          • 376

          #5
          Tony,

          Would you mind informing all on the benefits of adding capacitors? When needed. Capacitor bank vs single. (I know some info its on the main site, but here would be good as well)
          Any words of caution....)

          Sean

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          • properchopper
            • Apr 2007
            • 6968

            #6
            Originally posted by sanyijr
            Tony,

            Would you mind informing all on the benefits of adding capacitors? When needed. Capacitor bank vs single. (I know some info its on the main site, but here would be good as well)
            Any words of caution....)

            Sean
            Sean,

            I'm not qualified from the point of electrical theory to go any deeper into the issue than to say that adding capacitors, in the end result, makes the SC run cooler in certain cases. I was just one of the sheep that followed along when the "add capacitor fad" started some time ago. Those better educated in this subject may chime in.
            2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
            2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
            '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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            • jimi911
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 205

              #7
              Helps with heat dissipation (more/larger the caps ... better heat transfer), helps the esc handle spikes, and smooths out the flow of 'juice' through the esc.

              Wont give you greater performance past the specs of the esc, but will give you a greater measure of safety.
              www.whittingtonracing.ca

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              • properchopper
                • Apr 2007
                • 6968

                #8
                Originally posted by jimi911
                Helps with heat dissipation (more/larger the caps ... better heat transfer), helps the esc handle spikes, and smooths out the flow of 'juice' through the esc.

                Wont give you greater performance past the specs of the esc, but will give you a greater measure of safety.
                Perfectly worded. In the case of my Jersey Skiff, which due to it's design and irregular running attitude vents and unvents the prop to a large degree, the extra cap should smooth out the spikes and ripple current when this occurs, especially with my extended battery-to-SC wires.
                2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                • jimi911
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 205

                  #9
                  For those with the larger Castle HV escs, there is a cap bay that is pretty handy and easy to install. I just put one on my HV110 for a bit of extra protection. Adds some length to the setup, but its good piece of mind. This unit also has an anti-spark setup I added, which is nice on the HV rigs.
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                  • properchopper
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6968

                    #10
                    Some more applications

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                    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                    • sanyijr
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 376

                      #11
                      Tony,

                      so to followup on my question... Why did you only add 1 capacitor to your Aquastar? Wouldn't 2 be better? Or 4? Is there a general rule of thumb of what size/number capacitor to X cells, or amps anticipated? Or % of ESC power used to esc rating? Does that question make sense?

                      Sean

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                      • Brushless55
                        Creator
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 9488

                        #12
                        Originally posted by properchopper
                        John, Sad but true. I actually thought this would be too redundant to post.
                        Not at all Tony..
                        I thank God for posts like yours and the great info for us to use..
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                        • properchopper
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 6968

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sanyijr
                          Tony,

                          so to followup on my question... Why did you only add 1 capacitor to your Aquastar? Wouldn't 2 be better? Or 4? Is there a general rule of thumb of what size/number capacitor to X cells, or amps anticipated? Or % of ESC power used to esc rating? Does that question make sense?

                          Sean
                          Sean, I'm "electronic theory challanged" so here's my "rule of thumb" :


                          1] : Measure thumb :

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                          2] : Find capacitor of similar dimensions :

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                          3] : count thumbs

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                          4] : Install thusly : # thumbs = # capacitors ( if you're one of those people that are "all thumbs", buy extra capacitors)

                          Seriously, I hope someone with more grasp of this answers your question. It's been discussed & posted before on OSE.

                          Enjoy,

                          Tony
                          2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                          2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                          '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                          • sanyijr
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 376

                            #14
                            Tony,

                            I appreciate your literal interpretation..... But your math worries me a bit

                            But I do see you are using 25V caps. Can you (or anyone since Tony will use a differnet rule of thirds or something creative....Not that there is anyting wrong with that) give any advice on the Voltage capacity on the caps? I assume Capacitor voltage should never be less than the total battery voltage.... Is that a safe bet?
                            Last edited by sanyijr; 01-24-2012, 01:15 PM. Reason: for typical typos

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                            • Steven Vaccaro
                              Administrator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8718

                              #15
                              Originally posted by m4a1usr
                              It can never hurt to repeat the good stuff Tony. Not sure why but OSE has boat loads of info, yet so few bother to do a search. They just ask the same questions that have been answered a hundred times.

                              John
                              I really have to work on going a better job on categorizing helpful tips.
                              Steven Vaccaro

                              Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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