A Method for Assembling Flex Shafts using Loctite

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  • Darin Jordan
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 8335

    #1

    A Method for Assembling Flex Shafts using Loctite

    I was putting together some flexshafts this past week and thought maybe someone here could benefit from some explanation and pics.

    I'm using Loctite 638 this time around. I normally use the thinner 603, but Steven recommended I try this. It's definitely thicker and seems to flow well enough to get down into the cable winds.

    I also use the Loctite 7471 Primer, but I know of others who just use Acetone. I'm using both, in this case.

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    First, you'll want to cut your cables to the appropriate length. I simply cut mine about 1/4" longer than I want the completed length with a set of heavy duty wire side cutters, then I sand the ends of the cable down on a sanding disc to get it as square as possible:

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    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."
  • Darin Jordan
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 8335

    #2
    You also want to be sure the clean out your stub-shafts. The process of drilling out the cable end leaves residue and cutting fluids. I use a Q-Tip soaked with Acetone and clean them out well, until the Q-Tip comes out clean and dry. As you can see from the picture, I chuck the Q-Tip up in a cordless drill and use that to assist the process.

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    Clearly a lot of residue left behind! Clean this all out.

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    Finally, I use some wed-dry 220-grit to clean up the end of the cable. I chuck the cable up in my drill, then rotate it and sand the end until the gold/bronze is gone and the end of the cable is cleaned up.

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    Clean up the end using some Acetone to remove any residue and dry it well. You can even use a little bit of heat from a heat gun or ??? to make sure you completely dry out the windings of the cable. When it's all cleaned up, it'll look something like this:

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    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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    • Darin Jordan
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 8335

      #3
      With all the parts cleaned up, you can now start assembling.

      One topic that came up recently was how to keep everything lined up while the Loctite is setting. The way I do it for a .150" cable and a .130" flex, is to use a piece of 7/32" and a piece of 3/16" tubing, one to hold the stub, the other to hold the cable. They two pieces of tubing slide into each other and will hold them VERY closely inline.

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      Put a controlled amount of Loctite onto the last 1/2" or so of the flex, all the way around. Also, put a drop or so into the stub-shaft.

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      When you push the cable into the stub, it may "hydraulic" a bit. Make sure you rotate the flex and push in until it's fully seated. Do this slowly so you don't force all the Loctite out, but rather into the cable windings.

      You WILL get a little bit of squeeze-out. Gently wipe this off, trying to leave a little right at the top of the stub. It will soak in as the Loctite sets. Just make sure you get it off the sides of the stub-shaft.

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      Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
      "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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      • Darin Jordan
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 8335

        #4
        Finally, making sure that there isn't any overflow of Loctite on the sides of the stub or the cable, slide the stub into the larger piece of tubing and support it vertically using a shop clamp or ???

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        Slide the smaller piece of tubing over the flex and partially into the larger piece of tubing to support and center the flex. DO NOT push the flex-shaft support tuning all the way to the top of the stub. Leave it up 1" or so, just to keep it from possibly getting bonded to the assembly.

        Set aside and let it setup. I let mine sit at room temperature for a 24-hour period, just to make sure the Loctite if fully cured.

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        If all goes correctly, you'll be able to just slide the brass/aluminum tubing off, run some Scotchbrite over the stub and cable, and you'll have a completed Flexshaft, ready to install.

        Hope this helps.
        Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
        "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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        • JimClark
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 5907

          #5
          Nice tutorial especially for those of us who are visual learners.
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          • TRUCKPULL
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 2971

            #6
            Someone should put a sticky on this one

            Very well done Darin.

            Larry
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            • JimClark
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 5907

              #7
              Stuck it is

              Originally posted by TRUCKPULL
              Someone should put a sticky on this one

              Very well done Darin.

              Larry
              "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
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              • martin
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Aug 2010
                • 2887

                #8
                Darin acetone will indeed clean grease or oil out but I prefer stuff that is made for that job, Loctite 7061 superclean or 7063 superclean.

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                • Darin Jordan
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 8335

                  #9
                  Originally posted by martin
                  Darin acetone will indeed clean grease or oil out but I prefer stuff that is made for that job, Loctite 7061 superclean or 7063 superclean.
                  That's fine. Probably just a version of Brake Parts Cleaner or ??... The idea is simply to degrease and dry the area and leave no residue.
                  Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                  "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                  • monojeff
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2561

                    #10
                    Nice job Darin very easy directions to follow.
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                    • Tamelesstgr
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 1516

                      #11
                      I was curious, I purchased a .187 flex cable with 3/16 propshaft from OSE. I ended up cutting a little more than half of the cable off, I am wondering if I can make a backup cable if I purchase another 3/16 propshaft? I only see 3/16" propshaft for a .150" cable.
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                      • martin
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 2887

                        #12
                        You use the 3/16" propshaft with the .150" hole, you have to remove the outer winding on the 3/16" flex. The outer winding is removed the depth of the hole, the flex & propshaft is then brazed together. When you remove the outer winding of the flex it leaves the flex at .150" that goes into the hole.

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                        • T.S.Davis
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6221

                          #13
                          The benefit of 603 is that its oil tolerant. Meaning that if there is any residual oil left behind in the cable it won't screw u the whole assembly.

                          Darin, you should maybe do a 3/16 cable with a 3/16 stub. Kind of a PIA.
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                          • T.S.Davis
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 6221

                            #14
                            Ah, never mind. Martin is on it.
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                            • ray schrauwen
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9471

                              #15
                              Originally posted by martin
                              You use the 3/16" propshaft with the .150" hole, you have to remove the outer winding on the 3/16" flex. The outer winding is removed the depth of the hole, the flex & propshaft is then brazed together. When you remove the outer winding of the flex it leaves the flex at .150" that goes into the hole.
                              If you do this, is there any benefit to using 3/16" cable when it terminates with .150" anyway??
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