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  • Grimracer
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 662

    #1

    Castle 5.5 Tip

    Racers, For what its worth!

    I have been updating my race boats to Castle 5.5mm bullets.

    I know behind the times… I really do not race FE boats all that much and to date never toasted a deans but its time to update my fleet.

    What I have found is the ID of the female Castle connector to be +/- .009" (WHEW!)

    To help identify what female connectors you want to use before you solder: Purchase a .215" gauge pin. If the pin fits, use the connector. if not, pass on that one and test another.

    If you feel you need more precision then that buy both a .215” gauge pin and a .217” gauge pin. The smaller one must fit and the larger one not.

    What you will find is a fit that does not become compromised cycle after cycle.

    Grimracer
  • blackcat26
    High Speed Junkie
    • Sep 2009
    • 1598

    #2
    I have had some trouble with the tolerancing of my 6mm bullets, I bought from hobbyking. Some fall out and some you have to hammer together. I used a lathe at work with a collet system to make the male connectors fit better. Just kept adjusting the collet tension til they felt good in the female connector.
    FE BOATING: Less like a hobby and more like an addiction!

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    • TRUCKPULL
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 2971

      #3
      With the 5.5mm plugs.
      I have found that if you use a 2.5mm allan wrench.
      Insert it into the male plug, give it a twist, they fit together very nice.
      This can be done about every ten times that they are plugged in to keep them tight.

      Larry
      Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
      Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
      Bump & Grind Racing Props -We Like Em Smooth & Wet

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      • drwayne
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • May 2008
        • 2981

        #4
        Originally posted by TRUCKPULL
        With the 5.5mm plugs.
        I have found that if you use a 2.5mm allan wrench.
        Insert it into the male plug, give it a twist, they fit together very nice.
        This can be done about every ten times that they are plugged in to keep them tight.

        Larry
        If the 2.5 probe spread it out okay, screw a 2.5mm grub screw into the male plug for a solid fix.
        the 6mm plugs need a 6/32 grub for a permanent solid solution.
        CC6.5 the same fit.

        DocW
        Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
        @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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        • Grimracer
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 662

          #5
          The value in checking the parts is to never have to (force) adjust the fit.

          IF" one grades the fits you dont have to force a fit. In doing so your connectors will last longer and provide more performance.

          Grim

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          • Darin Jordan
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 8335

            #6
            Good advice, Mike.

            I also carry three different sized finish nail setting "drifts" and use them to slide up inside the male contact to reset the tension on the contacts. This method keeps the contact sections from bending too much and breaking off.
            Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
            "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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            • m4a1usr
              Fast Electric Addict
              • Nov 2009
              • 2038

              #7
              Originally posted by Darin Jordan
              Good advice, Mike.

              I also carry three different sized finish nail setting "drifts" and use them to slide up inside the male contact to reset the tension on the contacts. This method keeps the contact sections from bending too much and breaking off.
              Right on Darin. I use a small tapered scribe to do the same. Just a little spread of the fingers and the fit is perfect!

              John
              Change is the one Constant

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              • 6S HYDRO
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Mar 2009
                • 1320

                #8
                exactly spread apart or squeeze together the male tabs to fit the opposing female plug

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                • drwayne
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • May 2008
                  • 2981

                  #9
                  Mechanical decay of the male plug by repeated resizing weakens barbs , increases R, increases heat, lowers efficiency.
                  All the things electrics need to avoid
                  The grub screw prevents the male from resizing.
                  Dont be timid, give it a try and stick it in.
                  Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
                  @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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                  • bigwaveohs
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 535

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Grimracer
                    Racers, For what its worth!

                    I have been updating my race boats to Castle 5.5mm bullets.

                    I know behind the times… I really do not race FE boats all that much and to date never toasted a deans but its time to update my fleet.

                    What I have found is the ID of the female Castle connector to be +/- .009" (WHEW!)

                    To help identify what female connectors you want to use before you solder: Purchase a .215" gauge pin. If the pin fits, use the connector. if not, pass on that one and test another.

                    If you feel you need more precision then that buy both a .215” gauge pin and a .217” gauge pin. The smaller one must fit and the larger one not.

                    What you will find is a fit that does not become compromised cycle after cycle.

                    Grimracer
                    Grim,
                    We switched to Castle 5.5's and I have noticed a big difference in sizes which is a real PITA!
                    My tunnel uses e-Flite EC-5's and I have never had a problem with them not fitting together. On the other hand some of the Castle's are too tight to fully engage and others a quite loose.
                    JMHO
                    I let the dogs out...

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                    • graill
                      Retired
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 389

                      #11
                      Good info. Though not something i look for to do as i go for reliability over cost savings.

                      An alternative, and what i use are multilam style, slightly more expensive but worth it. Most military and utility use this tech as its the best for electrical conductivity and high amp apps.

                      You can find the primary source for ALL regular contacts are sourced from two areas, both overseas, look it up, folks then slap their own advertisements and claims on them.

                      The good stuff: Several manufacturers make multilam style connectors, those from china should be avoided because of metalurgy and plating techniques.

                      you can identify multilam by the moveable ring spring multi contact, either external or internal. The contact area is superior compared to either blade type or standard round types in both amp capabilities and wear.

                      Without fudging the rules i have seen a couple manufacturers some of us frequent selling them up to 6.5 mm.

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                      • tdonnellyem
                        Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 35

                        #12
                        hey graill: i've seen those multilam connectors on forklifts and straddle jacks before. i've always thought that they would be a great connector but the only ones i have seen are giant- size 4 to size 1 awg. where have you seen them at 6.5mm? i'd love to get my hands on some. can't connect them backwards so mostly idiot proof and can handle high amps.

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                        • graill
                          Retired
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 389

                          #13
                          Originally posted by tdonnellyem
                          hey graill: i've seen those multilam connectors on forklifts and straddle jacks before. i've always thought that they would be a great connector but the only ones i have seen are giant- size 4 to size 1 awg. where have you seen them at 6.5mm? i'd love to get my hands on some. can't connect them backwards so mostly idiot proof and can handle high amps.
                          sent you a pm with a link as an example of what to look for. you will recognize the vendor i provide to you in that link as an example.

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                          • 6S HYDRO
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1320

                            #14
                            must it be a secret to the public? can we all see the link?

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                            • graill
                              Retired
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 389

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 6S HYDRO
                              must it be a secret to the public? can we all see the link?
                              Not a secret at all. But in keeping with forum guidelines it cant be posted. ie; taking away from businesses or non approved links.

                              I was warned one time a couple years ago, i learn fast. (grin)

                              i sent you a pm 6s.

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