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  • Ub Hauled
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Aug 2007
    • 3031

    #1

    Money saving choices

    Fast is relative to what kinda rig you already have, for example: if you have an N2 hydro, you should focus in what is fast for that kinda power/hull, not for what one can do on 3s, 4s, 6s, etc. The reason I say that is usually you'll have a hull that goes with that particular power (N2) and not with the higher voltage that people will suggest to place in there... besides, if you stick with YOUR setup until ready to get more hulls, not only will it save you money but also will teach you how to make your setup to go faster by changing CG, proper prop, work on props, sufficient rudder depth, tune a turn fin, etc. or just work properly.

    The motive behind all this is, usually the boaters with less experience, will listen to "more experienced" boaters that suggest buying all this stuff when it's really not necessary since there is a lot of potential still there.

    Thanks for listening...
    Ub
    :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::
  • wirenut67
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 137

    #2
    Excellent post and as a noob boater thank you for the sound advice. In rebuilding my Blackjack 26 I am finding there is a limit as to what the hull will handle, and there is no sense exceeding that.

    Sometimes listening to the "pros" at the hobby store just leads one to buy a bunch of unneeded stuff, and is that not their objective? To move merchandise?

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    • G Doggett
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 446

      #3


      That's partly the motive with my Rio Roses build.
      I'm not just being cheap because I'm a 'tight arse', (although I probably am), but to show that for what is really only a sports hull with limited performance potential, you can have reasonable performance and fun without spending a lot on 'racing' components.
      Graham.

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      • tiqueman
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jul 2009
        • 5669

        #4
        Well put Ub! Its easy to throw money at a hull (when you have it to throw) to make it faster. Anyone can do that. Theres no challenge there. As you know Ive been working extensively on a 32" cat. Although I did change my motor and esc (robbed them out of my BJ26 so it cost no $$$) because what the hull had in it wasnt practical... unless I wanted to run it in a pool. And the knowledge you can gain by sticking w/ what you have and keep "tweaking it" is priceless. And for me, its much more satisfying. A week of fine tuning and I picked up 3mph.. which doesnt seem like a lot. But I did this with 13 dollars, the help of many at OSE and a lot of time.
        Geico epoxy laminate hatch sale thread Black Jack epoxy laminate hatch sale thread
        HPR06 6S Twin HOTR Genesis (SOLD) Vantex 32" cat Geico racing
        WEST FL MODEL BOAT CLUB www.scottskiracing.com

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        • domwilson
          Moderator
          • Apr 2007
          • 4408

          #5
          Originally posted by Ub Hauled
          Fast is relative to what kinda rig you already have, for example: if you have an N2 hydro, you should focus in what is fast for that kinda power/hull, not for what one can do on 3s, 4s, 6s, etc. The reason I say that is usually you'll have a hull that goes with that particular power (N2) and not with the higher voltage that people will suggest to place in there... besides, if you stick with YOUR setup until ready to get more hulls, not only will it save you money but also will teach you how to make your setup to go faster by changing CG, proper prop, work on props, sufficient rudder depth, tune a turn fin, etc. or just work properly.

          The motive behind all this is, usually the boaters with less experience, will listen to "more experienced" boaters that suggest buying all this stuff when it's really not necessary since there is a lot of potential still there.

          Thanks for listening...
          Ub
          Agreed. You don't always need to throw big bucks into a setup when fine tuning may get you the same results.
          Government Moto:
          "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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          • AntronX
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 333

            #6
            Run less amps.

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            • Simon.O.
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Oct 2007
              • 1521

              #7
              Originally posted by domwilson
              Agreed. You don't always need to throw big bucks into a setup when fine tuning may get you the same results.
              That is what I spend most of my pond time doing.

              Originally posted by AntronX
              Run less amps.
              That works too.
              I have a Cat that is as happy on 3S to a 540-12S as it is on a 2S to a 540-8S, same prop, same speed but the 12S runs a lot lower amps and better run(fun)
              time.
              See it....find the photos.....sketch it it....build it........with wood

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              • Ub Hauled
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Aug 2007
                • 3031

                #8
                Good to hear that some of you are reading my post,
                and see the message I am trying to
                bring across...
                :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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                • domwilson
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4408

                  #9
                  Take a look at this thread... http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ead.php?t=9344
                  Government Moto:
                  "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                  • justintime2w8
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 260

                    #10
                    Very good ideas, I might add that there are soooo many choices out there for components that a person can shop around on a budget and get the stuff needed for any budget build.
                    www.radtekpowerboats.com

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                    • Gary
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 1105

                      #11
                      I think the only reason im into rc boating is so i can spend so much time messing with everthing. Most of the time its just a "TEST' When i go to the water, not to enjoy it but to see if my changes have done anything. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm ...mabe i should start bringing a lounge chair and enjoy myself..heaven forbid LOL.
                      PT-45, 109mph, finally gave up after last bad crash
                      H&M 1/8 Miss Bud 73 mph
                      Chris Craft 16 mph

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                      • ozzie-crawl
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2865

                        #12
                        gary i think a lot of us are the same way spend days tinkering and 5 minutes at the pond
                        come home spend a few more days tinkering, i think some times i enjoy doing little things to my boat more than running it.
                        must say i did run a boat for the first time in months last weekend and had a grin from ear to ear

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                        • Gary
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 1105

                          #13
                          Your right on Ozzie........You know the worst.......best.......most fun.......aggrivating two things i ever bought that im addicted two are my Eagle Tree and hand held GPS. Im SILLY with that Eagle Tree unit. Plus i never bring the lap top to the lake because thats my " OH YEA !!! " part of my night instead of watching TV. Good Times !!!!
                          PT-45, 109mph, finally gave up after last bad crash
                          H&M 1/8 Miss Bud 73 mph
                          Chris Craft 16 mph

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                          • tiqueman
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 5669

                            #14
                            Gary, thats funny you mention about the GPS. Ever since I got mine Im the same way. Fortunately I have a 4 acre pond in my back yard. My neighbor is always picking on me because he will see me running my boat, by the time he gets his shoes on and comes out the door, Im already done because Im always "testing."

                            However today I finally got to run the 3 FE boats I have with a member on the forum who brought a few boats. We spent 3 hours running several boats, all until the LVC's kicked in. It was a great time and made all that "testing" worth it...
                            Geico epoxy laminate hatch sale thread Black Jack epoxy laminate hatch sale thread
                            HPR06 6S Twin HOTR Genesis (SOLD) Vantex 32" cat Geico racing
                            WEST FL MODEL BOAT CLUB www.scottskiracing.com

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                            • Gary
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 1105

                              #15
                              Cant wait to test my updated SAW boat. She whent 102mph last year with lots of problems. This year i upgraded to a 240HV unit and two 50-100 c 5000mah batteries. Cant wait to
                              "test" these suckers. They put out 520amps at full tilt !!Im afraid to connect the damn batteries LOL . I think she will go 106-110 ...somewhere in there........ if it stays on the water LOL
                              PT-45, 109mph, finally gave up after last bad crash
                              H&M 1/8 Miss Bud 73 mph
                              Chris Craft 16 mph

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