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Ok so it now appears all but one of the NAMBA approved motors for FE 1/10th scale got discontinued in what seemed to be a blink of the eye. We are trying to get the 1/10th scale class off the ground here in IMPBA D12 for the upcoming season and in a matters of a couple months we went from all to one left. I was urged by some to pattern the motor choices after NAMBA and when I did the initial research it seemed viable as availability was good and prices were excellent. Needless to say this is going to require me to rewrite the part of the rules regarding motors. I have always hated motor "lists" for the very reason of what just happened, I think diameter and length limits are the way to go. Simple, straightforward, easy to understand and tech. With that being said and looking at what's out there comparable and similar in cost (read cheap) to what just got discontinued I'm leaning towards a 36mm x 56mm size limit. Also toying with a 2000kv limit as well but not sold on that one. I would like some feedback on this as I need to make a decision and have the rule set done for our district meeting coming up soon in the new year.
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FWIW D13 went with 36.5 X 56.5 limit for 2019 and the foreseeable future.MODEL BOAT RACER
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I'm ignoring it until the NAMBA 1/10 scale guys decide they have a problem and do something about it. The PNW 1/10 scale clubs don't actually run the NAMBA rules anyway.
Honestly, I'd like to see them tied to the p-ltd motor rules for simplicities sake. Dimensional limits will work.Brian "Snowman" Buaas
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Kv limit would just present another way to cheat.Gold SpiloComment
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Agreed, seen it happen with the current motors.Brian "Snowman" Buaas
Team Castle Creations
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Or a way for someone to say your cheating but have no means to prove it. They'll just assume and tell everyone they know that you are.
I'm with Brian. What ever the spec rules turns out to be just run that. 1500 will still a great choice but they will dry up. If you're asked about scale "Hey..... that looks fun. Can I play too?" Ya have to be able to point them to an easy answer or they wont be able to figure it out.
Curious though Doug. What are you expecting to see with another 3.5mm of motor? Not trying to start a brand new arguemnet. Honest. But 56.5 rules out:
all TP Motors
all Raider motors
all the Dynamite motors if you count the bearing cup which is machined as part of the can
all of the Leopard motors
The Neu 1412/2.5d is only 55mm depending on what can it was stuffed into. So you can race gold can AQ's and the Neu and that's it? You pick up 17 motors off of Mikes chart between 56.5 and 60 mm. Most of them less expensive than the 1412.
Not trying to whoop up on ya more Doug. I'm just not sure yer spec does what you want it too.Noisy personComment
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Edit.....there are more motor below that size but none that measure up to the AQ and the Neu. So you'll have a two pony show is what I mean.Noisy personComment
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Holy crap, here we go again (just like the "p-lim thread") about motors. It really sucks hearing all the argument's (everyone knows what's best and have the best knowledge. Everyone thinks they have the best resolution) but none are willing to give.
Can size/kv and weight and leave like that. Just like football, any descriptionies throw the yellow flag. What ever happened to honesty?
Isn't supposed to for fun? to meet other boaters (form a friendship) and to learn from them (as a newbe) and be competitive with them? To make clubs grow and to continue with the youth?
As I see it know clubs are going to go by the way side. With all the arguments going on with the adults youngsters are not going to get involved. As well as some adults, We don't know if we can race or not with what we have and may not afford motors that can compete. We just want to have fun.
Go ahead redo motors (make them better/whatever) have a class for them or for saw.
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Who's arguing? I asked a question.
The motors most were using for scales was discontinued. If someone showed at the pond looking to get into 10th scale we would have to send them away. Can't buy motors. That's not gonna work.Noisy personComment
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John C - who is arguing???? Take a deep breath and relax, progress will be made and a workable solution will be found. Will it be perfect? Highly unlikely but then again what class is "perfect". The mere fact we are talking simple dimensional limits puts us MILES ahead of where we have been.
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We're not expecting to see anything with the extra .5mm other than a fudge factor. We're not counting the bearing cup.
The dimension was brought up and voted on by the District FE racers at our annual meeting. It passed unanimously and everyone is happy so in that regard it's doing exactly what I /we want it to do.
And the list is gone..
I'm not selling it or cramming it down any ones throat. Just mentioned it to Don F. since he was on a similar page and we're neighbors.MODEL BOAT RACER
IMPBA President
District 13 Director 2011- present
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And your input Doug, as well as others' positive input, is appreciated.
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