Feeler thread- FE 1/10 scale unlimited hydro class in IMPBA

[don ferrette]

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[klloyd67]

Thanks Don

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[don ferrette]

This thing is going together fast, got maybe 8 hours total time in it. The laser cut ML Boatworks kit is making this super easy, have not had to sand or trim a single kit piece. Can't imagine what a royal PIA it would be to hand cut stuff this small.

http://woodrcboatkits.com/index.php/scale-kits.html?cat=5

[HOTWATER]

Nice!! Have a small stack of questions for you but I'll save them for the Capitol race when I see ya

[T.S.Davis]

I don't care what NAMBA is up to either Don. I do care about the racers though. It would be nice if guys chose to travel to race like for instance..........an FE nats in Atlanta ............the host club didn't have to chose one or the other. I get that local clubs can do what ever they want but it's better for all if they think a little bigger.

[don ferrette]

I don't care what NAMBA is up to either Don. I do care about the racers though. It would be nice if guys chose to travel to race like for instance..........an FE nats in Atlanta ............the host club didn't have to chose one or the other. I get that local clubs can do what ever they want but it's better for all if they think a little bigger.

All good man. I'm gonna be at a district race next weekend and again in September and will bring my 1/10th, let people check it out up close and get some solid feedback. The other reason I'm setting mine up with turn fin backers on each side is I'll be ready to run Atlanta regardless of the direction they run in.

[HOTWATER]

You guys are awesome for posting here (Pics and thoughts)...please remember that this is a "feeler thread" to gather rc boaters interests in this class. Nothing has been written in stone on what the rules will be. I have a few questions myself for Don but will ask him off of this thread as I do not want things to get stirred up here. Remember, this would (hopefully) be a new class for our District and we really could use a positive outcome! Thanks fellas!! ; )

[ray schrauwen]

I'd run a 1/10th if I could find a modern version rtr at a good price. Or hull and hardware. I used to be good at detail work but seem to have lost patience for it. I hate painting too, lol...

[don ferrette]

Ok so we just completed a district race and I brought my framed up 1/10th to show and discuss what those interested would want as far as coming up with a set of district rules since this is not an IMPBA class as of yet. I did mention the NAMBA rules for this class. Had a lot of good feedback from both potential racers showing serious interest as well as those who CD various district races and so far this is what we have-

1- there is zero interest in running counterclockwise, all want to run the same as we do now in all other classes. A couple key points given to me were-
a) no need for separate open water.
b) no need for extra corner entrance buoys
c) in a panic situation (avoiding a wreck, etc) one will tend to "react right"
d) no special props, fins etc. (guys had stuff already from 4S limited classes they want to use)

2- keep it simple and easy to build as in no straight shafts, allow curved fins so they handle better, etc
3- let them all run together like we do in 1/8th scale, no separate vintage/modern classes.

Nobody objected to the motor limits and actually were excited about keeping costs down. A couple racers involved in the conversations have stuff sitting around that will work in this class. We even had a new member there who already has a legit 1/10th built and another over 1/2 way done and was thrilled at the idea of a class specifically for them (see attached pic) and they are set up for right hand turning so us running these in D12 in the normal clockwise direction is pretty much looking like the direction we will take. We will get together again at the next district race in 3 weeks and I hope to have mine built up a good bit further to show again.

[T.S.Davis]

Well at least you can be assured your guys wont have to race anyone outside your district.

[don ferrette]

Well at least you can be assured your guys wont have to race anyone outside your district.

You said and I quote "I do care about the racers" well so do I and if this is the way the majority wants it so be it. The points brought up this weekend are quite valid. How many clubs are gonna want to hold separate open water for a single class? Or add extra entrance buoys? This feedback came unsolicited even after I showed them my boat was being built to go either rotation. What are you gonna do if this class catches on running clockwise elsewhere in the IMPBA? You need to think outside the FE box my friend, the vast majority of clubs out there are mixed and smart money says they'll want to keep things simple.

[T.S.Davis]

I'm in a box? The beauty of going the way the real boats go is that it's "out of the box". You have to learn something new. I guess you can do the same old thing. Might as well just run sport IMO.

If you do it different than the existing racers the likelyhood of them racing with you is nil. A rule set that divides them is good because?............

I guess I just think bigger than a district because I travel. If I go to an event it would be cool if we were all running the same thing. If it takes off going the wrong way I guess we'll continue to only run it in MI and not race them on the road so to speak.

[don ferrette]

I'm in a box? The beauty of going the way the real boats go is that it's "out of the box". You have to learn something new. I guess you can do the same old thing. Might as well just run sport IMO.

If you do it different than the existing racers the likelyhood of them racing with you is nil. A rule set that divides them is good because?............

I guess I just think bigger than a district because I travel. If I go to an event it would be cool if we were all running the same thing. If it takes off going the wrong way I guess we'll continue to only run it in MI and not race them on the road so to speak.

So......... let me ask you this- how many already exist that are current IMPBA members that would actually travel to other IMPBA districts to race are we talking about? 4? 6? 10?

And if the racers and clubs holding races ultimately decide that clockwise rotation is preferred then it's certainly not "the wrong way" to them. I mean you no disrespect whatsoever but I'm looking at the big picture Terry - what will generate the most activity, participation and boats on the water for the entire organization as a whole, not just say a few guys out of Michigan.

[T.S.Davis]

No disrespect detected Don. We're just blabb'n.

Both organizations ability to ignore each other and in some cases defy each other shocks me repeatedly. 8th scale from NAMBA and now 10th scale from IMPBA. You're district is even ignoring other IMPBA members running it and the guys that ran it at the nationals. Plus, I really thought guys would be interested in a challenge. Something different. Something harder.

All our heats turn the wrong way Don. The only one's going the right way were 10th scales. How do we call it "scale" at all? The boats aren't even sorta scale when we ignore the boats we are emulating.

If there were a nationals in say Atalanta for instance and they decided to offer "10th scale" I guess we'll continue to have the debate and some wont be racing. Or much more likely there will be 4 guys from your district and 4 guys from my district in Atlanta. Net result is of course no heats.

[Doug Smock]

Just my .02 fwiw guys as I don't see this class flying in D13 anytime in the near future but.. This class has run at the last three or four Spring Nationals and all the boats came from the MMEU IIRC. Maybe one from Fla. We made no changes to the race course and I don't recall open water being an issue at all.