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  • Jesse J
    scale FE racer
    • Aug 2008
    • 7116

    #1

    P1 overhaul

    finally picked up the P1 - what a beautiful hull.

    Well, I didn't like the tray, the 1/8" flex, the 4mm stub, the 42mm max prop diameter, nor the motor. so I gutted her and stripped off all the hardware.

    I laid a layer of heavy fiberglass and whipped up a custom motor mount; that and the stuffing tube are curing right now, so pics on the way. For hardware, I had picked up an MHZ inline for my MHZ shockwave, but it was a bit big for it.... perfect for the P1 AND I can run up to 46mm prop. I will be running my Castle 1520, .150 flex and 3/16" stub. With 1600KV motor, I have my options from 4-6S. I added a set of turn fins and am stewing on torque roll defenses.

    Here is the Strudder I went with. I reckon a Fullers might work as well. The problem was that this guy also was set up with the 1/8" to 4mm flex/stub... exactly the same as the venom strudder. So I spent a good bit of time with the stuffing tube of the MHZ hardware and jamming bits of imperial measurement K&S inside so I could run a speed bushing and get me down to the 3/16" inside the strut. I stopped the stuffing tube just at the transom and let the liner bridge the gap between transom and strut. Again, pics to come. I ended up making a 1.5" spacer to get the strut back even more, wanted the prop back closer to 3".
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  • BHChieftain
    Fast Electric Addict
    • Nov 2009
    • 1969

    #2
    Where did you pick up the hull only?
    Chief

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    • Jesse J
      scale FE racer
      • Aug 2008
      • 7116

      #3
      I got the near RTR boat from Brad on the swapshop. It was pretty much stock, but had some heavy use. I tore into it like I did with your Fastech. You can get the hull and hatch only though, I am glad I got this one, now I have perfect hardware and ESC for my smaller Shockwave.
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      • BHChieftain
        Fast Electric Addict
        • Nov 2009
        • 1969

        #4
        I love the lines of this hull. I can't wait to see how this build turns out! Do you think the narrow hull can handle a 46mm prop?

        Chief

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        • forescott
          Hopelessly Addicted to RC
          • Nov 2009
          • 2686

          #5
          Are their any issues with the strut laying flush at the hull. The p-1 has that roll at the top of the transom that really limits the amount of space to mount aftermarket hardware. Oh yeah, How is my hatch? I'm ready to have it back now. I sold it to Brad to get him back on the water. Then he went and sold the boat! I just got a set of turn fins and wire drive for the stock setup and am now wishing I hadn't sold it.

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          • Jesse J
            scale FE racer
            • Aug 2008
            • 7116

            #6
            your hatch is beautiful! i saw that thread - I get the idea the boy is rough on his toys... I have a buddy like that. I am gonna CF the windows then FG the whole bloomin thing - THEN fill it with flotation. I might buy another hatch and fixer up for ya - I just looked and it seems th'ain't nun... When our ponds freeze, I could see sellinerbacktaya - I just hope that ain't this week!

            Yes issues, that's why I had to make a spacer for the MHZ hardware - that dang curved transom. it was about 15deg angle, so I cut a piece of pine to space out the hardware. I am thinking of painting it gunmetal or maybe just white like the rest.
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            • bwells
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 842

              #7
              Why the in-line rudder? I hate removing it to get the shaft out and it never goes back on the same way! I do think they look alot better than the offsets.

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              • Jesse J
                scale FE racer
                • Aug 2008
                • 7116

                #8
                Inline because I like the looks and am willing to pay in the performance. I will have my racers offset for sure, but for my scalers, looks is at least half of the equation. I have yet to see how she performs. removing flex is not bad, just remove the lower screw and the rudder kicks up - very easy. I am playing with making a little more overhang - more true to scale.
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                • JEDNJONES
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 134

                  #9
                  Originally posted by forescott
                  Are their any issues with the strut laying flush at the hull. The p-1 has that roll at the top of the transom that really limits the amount of space to mount aftermarket hardware. Oh yeah, How is my hatch? I'm ready to have it back now. I sold it to Brad to get him back on the water. Then he went and sold the boat! I just got a set of turn fins and wire drive for the stock setup and am now wishing I hadn't sold it.
                  Hey Forscott,
                  If you want to sell the fins and wire drive let me know. Jesse, Your P1 looks sweet!
                  Fountain KOS P1, Formula Fastech, 37 Fightercat Daytona CF twin
                  Pulled by Slash 4x4 tow vehical

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                  • Jesse J
                    scale FE racer
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 7116

                    #10
                    got it all ready for test run tomorrow. She weighs in at 6.5 pounds... I may need that bigger prop diameter to get her out of the hole. Gonna start with 6S and x642 (I know, 35K rpms... but, small prop, big ESC and flat water. I suspect 4S maybe even 3S for the rough stuff. I loaded her up port side heavy hoping to dampen the torque roll problem. trim tabs oughta help too. Painted windscreen and might be able to reinforce tonight for ample curing time.
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                    • JEDNJONES
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 134

                      #11
                      Looks like you may have a shot at my record! If you have time, post pics of your setup. What ESC etc? Are you going to gps or radar the run?
                      Fountain KOS P1, Formula Fastech, 37 Fightercat Daytona CF twin
                      Pulled by Slash 4x4 tow vehical

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                      • Jesse J
                        scale FE racer
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 7116

                        #12
                        I am starting with the Himodel 200 2-7 opto (with external 6V rx pack) and my little Garmin GPS.

                        Here are pics of the hatch - pretty happy with it and may stay with how it came out. I reinforced with the heavy automotive fg after spraying the windows with pearl purple then black.
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                        • Jesse J
                          scale FE racer
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 7116

                          #13
                          innards

                          here are shots of interior. Home-made motor and servo mount, used a piece of the original tray to make the speedo and GPS mount up front.
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                          • JEDNJONES
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 134

                            #14
                            You do good work. Those windows look awesome! Glad you put flotation on the hatch. Its tight in these boats with all the electronics. Still have room to move batteries around tho.
                            Looks good, ill be on standby for the test results.
                            Fountain KOS P1, Formula Fastech, 37 Fightercat Daytona CF twin
                            Pulled by Slash 4x4 tow vehical

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                            • Jesse J
                              scale FE racer
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 7116

                              #15
                              Thanks bro. I have that Casio camera showing up Tuesday for some slo mo, but will take out my vidcam for test runs. I am pretty psyched to see how the overhaul holds up to field test. I have tried to incorporate all the issues I have read about in my redesign of the interior and hardware set up. Will post updates as soon as I get out to test. Sposed to snow later this afternoon and my LHS buddy might stop by on his way to work, so could have results around noonish
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