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Is anyone reliably running the stock setup on the recommended voltage and props? I haven't heard any good news.
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My Twin Ammo 28-56-2300 Kv Motors!
***Here are some pics of my setup still using the stock ESC s ,Twin Ammo 28-56-2300 Kvs , Octura x 442 , 4 S LiPOs and Traxxas Villain EX 550 water cooling system!***Yep . The COG can get it to run too wet like that ,mine has never flipped so far at full throtle. That s why my stinger drives are all the way up. I ve just sent for more powerfull 120 amp PRO ESCs too, because I may want to try out the Neu 1115 1Y or 2D , 380 "Extra Long"motors. Pics from my twin Ammo 28-56-2300 Kv setup are coming soon.
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I'm starting to think the 36mm props are too big. I'll be able to say more as I continue testing, but I have a hunch since they were overheating a 120 amp 540 setup.
I setup the stock 60a ESC's with 36-56 2700Kv motors and the stock 36/3 props.
They have 4mm 32/3 props, but did not come with them.
We'll see how it handles in the morning.
PS- I'm almost positive the ESC's are the Hobbywing/Turnigy/Seaking 60's.
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I'm really starting to think that I just got a poorly assembled boat, as if some new factory worker made a lot of mistakes in the assembly process. The paint is now flaking off of the hull and bubbling up in wierd places, mostly around the decals. The clear coat is really thin and allows the water to penetrate, dries and peels the coating off.
Most all of the hardware was loose and most all of the inside wood has come unglued from lack of epoxy binding.
This all points to very poor assembly work and a boat with problems that were clearly missed by QA. I've contacted Venom for suggestions.
I did pay retail for this boat and I expect retail service to go along with the retail price. Hopefully we'll be able to work something out and turn this in to a positive experience for all.
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Do you run in salt water? If so, do you rinse everything when done running. I really don't think that salt water should make paint peel,buy it couldn't hurt to rinse afterward.Comment
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Aside from having 2- motors go bad. I received mine with a flex shaft that had a different thread pattern, and the prop nut would only spin on 1/2 turn. I ended up just purchasing extra flex shafts because venom wanted me to ship the shaft back to them to take a look at it.(didnt want to wait that long) Also the first time I put their included hatch tape on, it peeled the paint off the chevron design at the back of the hull/hatch.(That really upset me) And then there was the couplers that couldnt hold on to the flex shafts.(I lost 2.) Shortly after I burnt up 2-stock motors on 3s. In all fairness the 2nd time was my fault for running a set of octura 442's.(way too big for those motors) However the customer service that I received was pretty good. I had to wait a while for the motor but they were willing to work with me and were prompt to respond and courtious. So my overall experience with venom has been good and bad. Its been about a year since all of my issues and since I decided to fix all the problems myself, without involving venom, Ive had a lot of fun with it, modifying components and trying out different motors/props. I really wish venom would have used higher quality motors, better couplers, and maybe a little better quality control. but I guess you cant please everyone, and the ekos is still one of my favorite boats to this day.
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Yep. Run them all in salt water and give them a good bath when done. I have a bicycle that's several years old now that I ride on the beach in the water. Not a spot of rust. Good maintenance and salt water is your friend. =)
Water shouldn't be getting under the paint. Period.
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Yeah, I've had all the same problems (except the prop). I'm working with Jason and basically asking for his help in turning this into a positive experience. I don't mind waiting for parts, since I have plenty of other setups to run. The tape peeled off the pin striping on mine as well, but that's typical of a cheap clear coat over pin stripe tape. I have big sheets of clear coat and chunks of fiberglass coming off of the hull.Aside from having 2- motors go bad. I received mine with a flex shaft that had a different thread pattern, and the prop nut would only spin on 1/2 turn. I ended up just purchasing extra flex shafts because venom wanted me to ship the shaft back to them to take a look at it.(didnt want to wait that long) Also the first time I put their included hatch tape on, it peeled the paint off the chevron design at the back of the hull/hatch.(That really upset me) And then there was the couplers that couldnt hold on to the flex shafts.(I lost 2.) Shortly after I burnt up 2-stock motors on 3s. In all fairness the 2nd time was my fault for running a set of octura 442's.(way too big for those motors) However the customer service that I received was pretty good. I had to wait a while for the motor but they were willing to work with me and were prompt to respond and courtious. So my overall experience with venom has been good and bad. Its been about a year since all of my issues and since I decided to fix all the problems myself, without involving venom, Ive had a lot of fun with it, modifying components and trying out different motors/props. I really wish venom would have used higher quality motors, better couplers, and maybe a little better quality control. but I guess you cant please everyone, and the ekos is still one of my favorite boats to this day.
Right now, it's all on them. If they are willing to stand behind their product, I'm willing to work with them and even help cover their costs to make this right.
If I get a new hull, it'll go for a proper marine seal at the shipyard down the street. No worrys then.
If they don't work with me, I'll just buy that Avenger I've been oogling and scuttle this one with a pound of black powder in the Atlantic Ocean and put it on youtube for the world to see. (how awful!) But would make me feel better.
... to be continued...
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Avenger??? more info.Comment
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Yeah, I've been oogling the Avenger Pro since I first saw it... And for the time and $$ I've wasted on this boat, I could have built the Avenger by now!
So, I may just call it quits on the EKOS and build me an Avenger. It would certainly be worth the time and money and I'm sure the hull would be nice. I'd set it up with twin 180a's and 1515's on 4s6p. There's room for 6 packs in there! Probably more!
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I had to tap out one of their pro nuts too. Very poor quality. This whole boat is a very cheapened up product IMO. Every component is just one notch below par. One notch up and this would have been an excellent boat. Just one notch up... I'm wondering what really made this boat worth $500?Aside from having 2- motors go bad. I received mine with a flex shaft that had a different thread pattern, and the prop nut would only spin on 1/2 turn. I ended up just purchasing extra flex shafts because venom wanted me to ship the shaft back to them to take a look at it.(didnt want to wait that long) Also the first time I put their included hatch tape on, it peeled the paint off the chevron design at the back of the hull/hatch.(That really upset me) And then there was the couplers that couldnt hold on to the flex shafts.(I lost 2.) Shortly after I burnt up 2-stock motors on 3s. In all fairness the 2nd time was my fault for running a set of octura 442's.(way too big for those motors) However the customer service that I received was pretty good. I had to wait a while for the motor but they were willing to work with me and were prompt to respond and courtious. So my overall experience with venom has been good and bad. Its been about a year since all of my issues and since I decided to fix all the problems myself, without involving venom, Ive had a lot of fun with it, modifying components and trying out different motors/props. I really wish venom would have used higher quality motors, better couplers, and maybe a little better quality control. but I guess you cant please everyone, and the ekos is still one of my favorite boats to this day.
I took the hull to the local dock shop that refurbishes real boats, they guy said it was most likely just cheap paint without UV protection... The decals shrink & crack under the clear coat from sun exposure. Explains why I'm only having top hull damage. So I guess I should have kept it out of the sun? (not like I leave it out, it's only out when I run it! ) Perhaps a wax sunblock on the hull? Perhaps a bimini top?
FYI- So far the only suggestion by Venom is to buy a scratch & dented hull on eBay for retail price... I would be willing to work with them at cost, but they shouldn't be making a profit from product failures!
On the bright side...
The laser cut wood stand is nice and foam lined is good. The overall appearance is pretty cool. I like the air tubes and the see-thru hull hatch window. The picture on the box is neat...
I don't regret buying it though. It's taught me quite a bit about FE Boats!
Mostly, what to avoid!
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Gee I sure am glad I didn't buy one when they came out!Comment
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Are you sure? Because I was just offered 20% off retail for a replacement hull. (Same price as Tower without applying any Tower discounts)
This is Venom's opportunity to make good on a defective retail product that was purchased at retail price from an authorized retailer.
There's nothing I can do aside from offer them the opportunity to make good and even offer to help recoup their expenses in making good on a defect.
I'm certainly not going to buy another when this one is defective.
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COLDS & FLU FORUMSLast edited by FighterCat57; 02-14-2011, 11:12 PM.FighterCatRacing Team CHING BLING - Ching Bling. Brilliant, Advanced Sparkle for your hull.Comment
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I AM,
I GAVE YOU ALL THE INFO, I HAVE BEEN RUNNUNG 3s & 4s
WHAT EVER I COULD GET,
BUT ALL YOU DID WAS TRY TO BE SUPERIOR AND FOCUS ON 4s.
AND INSTED OF ASKING ME
TO CHECK THIS OR RUN LIKE THAT,ALL YOU GUYS DID WAS
CUT ME UP,MAKE STUPID COMMENTS AND USED STEVE-O THE
GREATEST ACTOR OF THIS CENTURY'S NAME IN VAIN AND
MIS-SPELLED IT TOO.
YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY GOOD NEWS
YOU GOT WHAT YOU GAVE.....GRIEF...SO MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW AS
MUCH AS YOU THINK YOU DO OR JUST MAYBE YOUR TO CLOSED MINDED TO
ANY NEW WAY OF DOING SOMETHING.....
I CAN'T SAY ALL JUST A FEW OF YOU (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE)
SO ENJOY LOOKING AT YOUR BOAT ON A SHELF.
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I too run in salt water here in the USVI and never had issues with paint bubbling. That's in 80 degrees all year round. I wash my boat after every use. I also blow fresh water thru the jackets for about a minute each. And use a mist bottle in side the hatch to get any salt residue off batteries etc. Pretty much these boats handle pretty good in kays or calm days at the harbour. We have just as much glassy salt water lagoons as fresh water lagoons just gave to clean a bit more. Also Johnson marine grease. Great for salt water applications And last along time. Just waiting on better shafts and couplers and speed prop screws then it's back to running at the lagoon against the nitro and gas guys. I'm the only FE out there and still hold my own. Sucks that u maybe need 3 sets of lipos with 15 -20 cool down. To be able to make a day of it cause waiting 45 minutes per battery sucks on 3s 20c 4000mah. Looking at maybe another set or 4s 3500. Till motors die and it's time to buy xl's with turnigy 120A or higher for the future. Looking to run 6s eventually but for boat drag races and 4s for recreational purposes.Comment
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