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  • NitroVal
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 423

    #1

    Project "Nuke the Motor" is about to hit the water..

    Got all the wiring done, extra plumbing ran, new flexshaft in...


    Through-hull pickups (hopefully they work). These are for the motor. I'd rather smoke the motors first if these pickups dont work. The stock cooling system is cooling the Etti's

    The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
    Now with 540s- 62mph
    New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses
  • Ub Hauled
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Aug 2007
    • 3031

    #2
    keep 'em coming!
    wanna se the video when available as well!
    :)
    :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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    • NitroVal
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 423

      #3
      I'm gonna plop her in the lake tomorrow and see how she does. Only way anyone is seeing video is if she breaks 50mph or explodes...
      The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
      Now with 540s- 62mph
      New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses

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      • Ub Hauled
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Aug 2007
        • 3031

        #4
        are those speaker cables?
        :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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        • NitroVal
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 423

          #5
          Originally posted by Ub Hauled
          are those speaker cables?
          They are 8awg silver core power cables.. Unfortunately I needed to make the battery leads pretty long because of the cap boards, so I figured these would provided the least resistance..
          The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
          Now with 540s- 62mph
          New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses

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          • NitroVal
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 423

            #6
            Well, project "Nuke the Motor" was a complete success, kind of. I was able to nuke one of the motors, however there was a ton of chop and wind today and experienced a rough blowover. Was only able to get 41mph out of her, but I would say I barely passed 3/4 throttle. The throttle is very touchy- I put the stock plastic props back on it, and I was doing everything I could to not shear them off, so I was very light on the throttle. However the chop was just horrendous- trying to accelerate in it was impossible. The torque was impressive- she was able to jump out of the water at 30mph with a quick blip of the throttle.
            I had some issues with the ESC's, not sure what was going on, but they were very unresponsive from a dead stop to about 1/4 throttle- I usually had to go full throttle to get a response from them. Probably just some Tx or ESC tuning issues. Im thinking my under-hull cooling pickups weren't working to well. The motors were at 160*F by the end of the short runs, while the ESCs and batteries were barely hitting 100*F. The port side motor still spins out of the water, but gives up when any bit of load is applied. Not sure whats going on there, but Im guessing it's smoked..
            The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
            Now with 540s- 62mph
            New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses

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            • Brushless55
              Creator
              • Oct 2008
              • 9488

              #7
              Hmmm only 41 on 5s?
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              • Ub Hauled
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Aug 2007
                • 3031

                #8
                I agree on the comment of "only 41mph on 5s"... there seems to be a lot of room for improvement.
                :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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                • Steven Vaccaro
                  Administrator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 8723

                  #9
                  Good job on getting more water to the motor. But I have to ask, WHY? Why try to burn up the motor or esc's?
                  Steven Vaccaro

                  Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                  • Ub Hauled
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 3031

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                    Good job on getting more water to the motor. But I have to ask, WHY? Why try to burn up the motor or esc's?
                    I asked the same on his other thread...
                    :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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                    • NitroVal
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 423

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                      Good job on getting more water to the motor. But I have to ask, WHY? Why try to burn up the motor or esc's?
                      To help keep you in business...
                      I really only had intentions to burn the motors up, since I'll be replacing them anyways for something more suitable for 5S. I closely watched the ESC temps and did what I could to preserve them. Neither of the ESCs got over 100*F, so if either of them have failed, it was because of something out of my power..

                      As for the low speed, if you read my post, you would have seen that the conditions were crap. The boat wouldnt stay in the water due to the wind and high chop.
                      The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
                      Now with 540s- 62mph
                      New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses

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                      • Steven Vaccaro
                        Administrator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 8723

                        #12
                        Originally posted by NitroVal
                        To help keep you in business...
                        Ok, thats funny. But I rather make a profit from happy customers, not ones pulling the hair out of their heads.

                        The problem is that motors run best in certain amp ranges. Increasing the voltage also increases the amperage. Increasing amperage in such a small motor really puts a hurting on its efficiency. Even at partial throttle.
                        Steven Vaccaro

                        Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                        • NitroVal
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 423

                          #13
                          WHat would you recommend on 5S with a 442 prop? Or better yet, something to get deep into the 60mph range?
                          The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
                          Now with 540s- 62mph
                          New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses

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                          • Steven Vaccaro
                            Administrator
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 8723

                            #14
                            I've never done one, so this is only a guess. In order to use x442 props, you would need about 35k rpm. I rather see someone use a larger prop, say x447 with less rpm. A couple of feigao 540 8xl motors should get you close to 60. One thing to consider is the size of the cable they use. Do you happen to know the size?
                            Steven Vaccaro

                            Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                            • NitroVal
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 423

                              #15
                              THe XL's are too big to fit in this hull. I was considering the 11L or possibly the 12L. The flex cables are 4mm
                              The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
                              Now with 540s- 62mph
                              New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses

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