boat cuts out at wot

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Indiana Spartan
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 19

    #1

    boat cuts out at wot

    the spartan with the new castle electronics cuts out after running WOT for a second or two.
    It is hitting 55.6 on the GPS running a x447 and .078 wire drive. after it peaks out is shuts down for a split second then kicks back in again. All batteries are newer... what could be the problem?????
  • Diesel6401
    Memento Vivere
    • Oct 2009
    • 4204

    #2
    Originally posted by Indiana Spartan
    the spartan with the new castle electronics cuts out after running WOT for a second or two.
    It is hitting 55.6 on the GPS running a x447 and .078 wire drive. after it peaks out is shuts down for a split second then kicks back in again. All batteries are newer... what could be the problem?????
    What batteries and how many cells you running? Could be a few different things.
    - Diesel's Youtube
    - Diesel's Fleet
    "It is easier to be wise for others than for ourselves"

    Comment

    • m4a1usr
      Fast Electric Addict
      • Nov 2009
      • 2038

      #3
      Check your Speedo LVC settings. Sounds all too familiar.

      John
      Change is the one Constant

      Comment

      • Indiana Spartan
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 19

        #4
        i am runnning Gen Ace 5000mah 40c 3s. Other than running through the lipo set up for the esc, what way do you check the low voltage setting. Fairly new to rc thanks

        Comment

        • m4a1usr
          Fast Electric Addict
          • Nov 2009
          • 2038

          #5
          Originally posted by Indiana Spartan
          i am runnning Gen Ace 5000mah 40c 3s. Other than running through the lipo set up for the esc, what way do you check the low voltage setting. Fairly new to rc thanks
          Please describe what "New Castle Electronics" means? You mean a a speedo? (ESC)? LVC settings can and will present the very problem you describe.

          John
          Change is the one Constant

          Comment

          • oscarel
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Dec 2009
            • 2127

            #6
            Originally posted by Indiana Spartan
            i am runnning Gen Ace 5000mah 40c 3s. Other than running through the lipo set up for the esc, what way do you check the low voltage setting. Fairly new to rc thanks
            It should've come with instructions. If not they should be on the Traxxas website.

            Originally posted by m4a1usr
            Please describe what "New Castle Electronics" means? You mean a a speedo? (ESC)? LVC settings can and will present the very problem you describe.

            John
            They now come with Castle motor and esc if I'm not mistaken.

            Comment

            • Indiana Spartan
              Junior Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 19

              #7
              it is the castle vxl6s esc and the castle 1420 1800 kv motor. The spartan was re-released with castle eletronics

              Comment

              • Diesel6401
                Memento Vivere
                • Oct 2009
                • 4204

                #8
                Originally posted by Indiana Spartan
                it is the castle vxl6s esc and the castle 1420 1800 kv motor. The spartan was re-released with castle eletronics
                Well that's one issue, 1800kv motor on 6s is a whole lot of rpms and you are swinging a mighty big prop. The setup you are running does not sound very reliable. The esc maybe hitting the lvc at peakcamp draw like John said, those are good batteries, but may not be able to handle the load you are putting on them or the esc maybe hitting some type of shutdown protection. The setup you have listed though does need some work. I think a smaller prop and/or drop the cell count to 4s/5s would be a good starting point. 6s on a 1800kv motor is not a good thing though IMHO...


                * Glad Traxxas went with the Castle system, but a 1800kv motor and still recommending 6s use is just another mistake Traxxas has made with this boat..
                - Diesel's Youtube
                - Diesel's Fleet
                "It is easier to be wise for others than for ourselves"

                Comment

                • oscarel
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 2127

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Diesel6401

                  * Glad Traxxas went with the Castle system, but a 1800kv motor and still recommending 6s use is just another mistake Traxxas has made with this boat..
                  I also noted this when they were testing it and I said something about it, oh well.

                  Comment

                  • Indiana Spartan
                    Junior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 19

                    #10
                    deisel that makes the most sence I am pretty sure the esc is set to lipo mode, I will switch back to a x642 prop and see how that goes. thanks

                    Comment

                    • stadiumyamaha
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 1284

                      #11
                      ditto. I wouldn't run a 1800kv on more that 5s and that's a way big prop to spin at that rpm. Also check to make sure no wires de soldered.
                      white geico w/2200kv 3674 leopard 53.5mph 4s2p, geico w/ 1800kv outrunner 52mph on 4s2p, genesis w/2200kv castle 53.8 on 4s2p, impulse 31 w/2200kv castle, stock p1 and ul-1

                      Comment

                      • Diesel6401
                        Memento Vivere
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 4204

                        #12
                        Originally posted by oscarel
                        I also noted this when they were testing it and I said something about it, oh well.
                        It's clear that Traxxas isn't taking any input from seasoned voters with this boat. Sounds like they are try to take what they know in the car game and use it on boating which we all know is NO NO... recommending 6s on that setup, having a esc with "training" mode which cuts the power by 50% and thinking running like that will last, not to mention adding reverse to a boat with a flexcable and over rpm'd setup is a nightmare waiting to happen... Traxxas lost some cool points with me on this one!

                        Originally posted by Indiana Spartan
                        deisel that makes the most sence I am pretty sure the esc is set to lipo mode, I will switch back to a x642 prop and see how that goes. thanks
                        I would highly HIGHLY suggest you lower your cell count on that setup also. I am sure that is not the answer you are looking for, but take it from a guy who has burned his fair share of things up and have been boating for a few years the 1800kv + 6s is not the best combo for sport running. Those rpms are SAW racing territory, your close to 40k unloaded rpm's. Your target range for sport boating is high 20k to low 30k.




                        I found the manual and it does not mention changing the actual value of the lvc, it just is either on or off. It also doesn't mention what the default value is. http://traxxas.com/sites/default/fil...n-Owners-C.pdf

                        * After reading this manual for the first time ever I think I will inform people to NOT read the instructions. It's truly clear Traxxas has A LOT to learn about Fast Electric boats.
                        - Diesel's Youtube
                        - Diesel's Fleet
                        "It is easier to be wise for others than for ourselves"

                        Comment

                        • Diesel6401
                          Memento Vivere
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 4204

                          #13
                          Originally posted by stadiumyamaha
                          ditto. I wouldn't run a 1800kv on more that 5s and that's a way big prop to spin at that rpm. Also check to make sure no wires de soldered.
                          +1 on that...
                          - Diesel's Youtube
                          - Diesel's Fleet
                          "It is easier to be wise for others than for ourselves"

                          Comment

                          • GeoVW72
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 258

                            #14
                            That prop is way to big to run on 6s.
                            The new castle stuff is a full Castle esc and you can hook it up to a castle link and program it. The lvc is already set at 3.2v and if it was going to cut-off it would not keep running. Maybe it is an over amp cut out?
                            Agreed, 1800kv isn't a good idea, as specially with a small 14xx series motor.
                            Team Boca Bearings

                            S&G Design

                            Comment

                            • Hot wire
                              Junior Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 8

                              #15
                              I am swinging a p220, is that to much prop to? My temps never get above 110 on speedo or motor on 6s 5000 50c.

                              Comment

                              Working...