New Motor and Maybe New ESC

[Brushless55]

With all these replacements, I wonder how much traxxas has lost because of this boat?

[djmaincheese]

Saw this post to a thread thread on RC-Monster

Yesterday, 11:19 PM

"Officially I can't confirm nor deny the existence of this motor"

Patrick del Castillo
President, Principle Engineer
Castle Creations


I just hope that Traxxas have pulled all the old motors and esc's and replaced everything with the newer updated version before they ship the new batch to Tower.
I have a red one on order

[Brushless55]

yep like I said I will not believe who has built this motor till the name is on the can
cuz its all just speculation at this tiime

[Shaun78]

THIS IS WHAT TRAXXAS SENT TO ME IN MY EMAIL ABOUT THE NEW/OLD MOTORS.

The motor and ESC are being replaced as a set. Please use this set of parts. The ESC will need to be calibrated. Thank you for chooseing Traxxas.
Please do not use the old motor with this ESC. It will rotate wrong.

[Brushless55]

THIS IS WHAT TRAXXAS SENT TO ME IN MY EMAIL ABOUT THE NEW/OLD MOTORS.

The motor and ESC are being replaced as a set. Please use this set of parts. The ESC will need to be calibrated. Thank you for chooseing Traxxas.
Please do not use the old motor with this ESC. It will rotate wrong.

I think this is all over the web......
and the part about the motor will rotate wrong
I wonder if they know you can switch wires around to spin left or right
and you need to calibrate the esc??

[Checkmateguy01]

This is probably a dumb question, and dumb idea too, but does anybody have a clue as to what the new motor/esc might cost if you were to buy them outright? I've got around 20 runs on my stock Spartan so far, all on NIMH's, and it's still running fine, but if the new motor is any better or possibly faster i'd like to have one right now instead of having to wait till the stock set-up blows and ending up with alot of down time waiting for the warrenty parts to come in. If i had a new motor waiting in the wings, and blow the old stock motor, i could send in the old one and get another new motor that could go into another hull, if that makes any sense...

[dag-nabit]

According to the Traxxas website, the OLD motor was around $200, and the ESC was about $275. Prices might be better at your LHS or on line. I would guess the new components will be similar in price.

But if you are going to pay to upgrade, you can probably do it cheaper choosing one of the aftermarket combos others have already done successfully.

Kevin

[Brushless55]

This is probably a dumb question, and dumb idea too, but does anybody have a clue as to what the new motor/esc might cost if you were to buy them outright? I've got around 20 runs on my stock Spartan so far, all on NIMH's, and it's still running fine, but if the new motor is any better or possibly faster i'd like to have one right now instead of having to wait till the stock set-up blows and ending up with alot of down time waiting for the warrenty parts to come in. If i had a new motor waiting in the wings, and blow the old stock motor, i could send in the old one and get another new motor that could go into another hull, if that makes any sense...

I would not wast your money on traxxas labeled products.. go with Leopard and Turnigy and save a ton of money for the same if not better components

[Checkmateguy01]

I would not wast your money on traxxas labeled products.. go with Leopard and Turnigy and save a ton of money for the same if not better components

Good point, i was just thinking in terms of warrenty.

[GeoVW72]

I think the re-design of this motor fixed a huge part of the Spartan's problem. For the average person who goes and picks one of these up now, I believe they are buying a pretty reliable boat.

Now about the drive line:

The last time I sent my motor and esc back, they sent me a new stuffing tube. Now i dont know if that was the fix, because it did look to be the same one, but I have yet to have any heat issue with my drive line. The brass is not even dis-colored. The only issue I have had with the drive line is having to re-grease it every run.

The motor was a good part of the longevity issue, however what's spinning is also as big an issue. I think that the stuffing tube was changed because some early batches had bad teflon liners, comes as one part so they just replaced it.

Shaun78: got the same e-mail, but without the reverse rotation comment
BL55: more than likely some typo on the rotation, you have to calibrate the esc to the radio not matter what one it is.

I seem to recall the same assumption being made about Castle and Leopard motors comming out of the same plant
Castle may have given some input as to what motor type to use and how to set-up traxxas's esc, but I don't think much beyond that given the possibility of their version.

Checkmate: just contact traxxas, more than likely they'll just send you the new system. It being "better" is something I have yet to find out.

Got confirmation that my warranty parts were processed to shipping, but nothing beyond that.

One thing that I find interesting in all this is the lack of updates to the manual.
It hasn't updated to reflect the esc change or become available in print from suppliers yet.