A Bullet Proof Spartan Build?

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  • Snowride
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 297

    #1

    A Bullet Proof Spartan Build?

    Well after much reading and much advice from several I built what I believe to be the best most reliable every day all out fun Spartan. Keep in mind my goal here is not to be the fastest or race, just to have tons of fun without the headaches we usually hear about. So far so good.

    There are documented issues with driveline and other problems if going with bigger motors so I stuck to a more "reliable" power source in terms of power and the Tacon 1700 is supposed to be very close to the stock Spartan in power, actually a little more. I am very green at this and therefor elected also to stick with the stock composite prop as they are a dime a dozen and I must say performs extremely well on this setup.

    Modifications

    Turnigy 180 ESC
    Tacon 1700
    Upgraded 2075 servo
    EC5 connectors all around
    Aluminum cooling jacket from OSE
    Added additional stock water outlet to starboard side
    New larger cooling lines all around from OSE
    Dual intake rudder from OSE. Modded with home made bracket to use existing Spratan control arm and mounting holes.
    Turnigy Nano Tech 6.0 3S
    Wohlt's 150 size drive wire
    Octura Teflon drive wire liner

    Bottom line, I was able to sell the removed components for close to the same cost as the new components. By the time all was said and done my Spart cost me $309 delivered + $62 in mods. $371 for a bulletproof Spartan is not bad at all.

    Working on graphics now and should update this in a few weeks or so.



    Last edited by Snowride; 06-12-2011, 09:08 AM.
  • jac4412
    FE Addict
    • Jun 2010
    • 425

    #2
    By bulletproofing does that mean you also bought an aftermarket fiberglass copy and used the decals?
    JAC4412 RC

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    • Snowride
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 297

      #3
      Actually flipped the boat and did several rolls bow to stern at about 40+ mph on the rocks and came out with only a few scratches. I was sure the darn thing was going to be totaled as I watch in horror flipping over and over on the jagged rocky shore. This was on a man made pond where the shore is rip rap from water to about 10' above the shore line, really nasty stuff to be boating on. If it would have been fiberglass there would be little left if anything. You would be very surprised at how much more forgiving this hull material is compared to fiberglass. Only real damage was a broken shear bolt on the rudder and the water outlet closest to the boat snapped off.

      The design of the dual intake rudder is to break the shear pin and flip up to save major damage on impact. Unfortunately this will take out the brass water outlet when it does so. They do not stock these here at OSE but I did find a real cheap alternative to those brass 10/32 x 1/4" barbs they use on the boat. See here. http://www.dripdepot.com/1465

      Before you comment on how unstable the hull is, definately not the case. Handles perfectly, very stable and forgiving. Being a newbie, I turned the wrong way and crashed.

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      • davey
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 163

        #4
        to run 6s in this hull what leopard motor (KV ) would one use and what ESC

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        • martin
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Aug 2010
          • 2887

          #5
          Originally posted by davey
          to run 6s in this hull what leopard motor (KV ) would one use and what ESC
          Leopard 4082 1500kv on 6s & T180 esc for around 60mph.

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          • davey
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 163

            #6
            thank you

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            • dag-nabit
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 775

              #7
              Originally posted by martin
              Leopard 4082 1500kv on 6s & T180 esc for around 60mph.
              Just an FYI,

              Leopard has re-badged the 4082 1500Kv as a 1600Kv motor.

              You may not find any 1500's in stock anywhere.

              Himodel has the 4082 1600 in stock. And I believe Steven here at OSE said he would be bringing some into stock as well but I didn't check to see if he has them yet or not.

              Kevin

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              • Brushless55
                Creator
                • Oct 2008
                • 9488

                #8
                Originally posted by jac4412
                By bulletproofing does that mean you also bought an aftermarket fiberglass copy and used the decals?
                Nice one!
                .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                • Snowride
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 297

                  #9
                  Well it seems like my drive line went for a crap for no apparent reason. I will be replacing the stock driveline with A Wohlt's RC Boats unit in the standard 150 size http://www.rcraceboat.com/Storewiredrive.html and using the octura teflon liner from OSE as part of my bullet proofing.

                  Stock piece of crap here

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                  • Snowride
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 297

                    #10
                    Update

                    Just a little update. After changing out the stock drive wire with Mr Wohlts http://www.rcraceboat.com/Storewiredrive.html and also changing the liner to an octura, everything seems top notch. Ran 4 sets of 6000ma 6S batteries down almost back to back yesterday with no issues whatsoever. Ran cool to the touch or should I say slightly warm. Played around with tweaks such as trimming the drive up slightly which really helped get gt the nose out of the water and fly. Flipped once with only 8" on bow bobbing in the lake Brought her back, emptied the water and continued on without any issues. Removed the drivewire when I got home to find it like brand new and a very light coat of grease still remaining. Looks like a rock solid overall package as modified to date. Love this thing.

                    One thing I should mention is the thread on the new drive wire is not the same as the stock one and I had to find the correct nut to fasten my prop. Would have been nice if the drive wire would come with a stainless nut.
                    Last edited by Snowride; 06-12-2011, 08:43 AM.

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                    • dag-nabit
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 775

                      #11
                      What are you running for a prop??
                      Kevin

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                      • Snowride
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 297

                        #12
                        Have not yet gotten to changing that to aftermarket as the stock actually performs very, very well. On top of that, they are darn cheap and easy to come by. Doubt I will swap it out as it is uber fast as is.

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                        • Snowride
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 297

                          #13
                          Another update. Well the boat has really been bullet proof and I do believe it may have to do with me running the stock prop and not pushing the limits with something else. I ran into one issue only which was my fault. I did not seal the receiver cover properly and on the last flip it took on water shorting it out. A replacement receiver solved this. I have literally 50+ runs on this boat and nothing but fun. Seems like I am the only one though, sad for Traxxas to say the least. I will be installing the piano wire drive in the very near future but must say I have not had any problems with the Jeff's wire drive at all.

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                          • dag-nabit
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 775

                            #14
                            So nice to see a positive post and really good to hear you are enjoying the Spartan so much.

                            I'm running Jeffs .187 cables right now and have a couple wire drives to try out when I decide to take the time to switch out.

                            kevin

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                            • Snowride
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 297

                              #15
                              Update....................

                              Water is freezing over and the Spartan is now put away till spring. Performed flawlessly all summer without any further issues. I highly recommend this build if you want to enjoy this boat. Cheers.

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