Is there going to be a 2nd gen spartan?
New Spartan, 2nd Gen?
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no second gen, just none to be shipped as I think they are pulling the motors and esc's out of the ones on the shelves for warranty issues with current customers.NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8sComment
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If they threw this in it at the minimal wholesale cost they could get it for, the problem would be solved. 4 pole and 1300kv.............efficient, powerful, and much cooler running, perfect for 6s. Larger prop selection as well.
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Just for the record, I drove a Spartan the other day. At a friendly gathering at Questtek's a very nice gentleman, a friend of Joes, showed up with a NIB Spartan, and asked me to get it running for him. Opening the box I was extremely impressed with the very crisp fit, finish, and looks in general. I helped him charge up the 2 7-cell NIMH's on his also brand new and quite nice TP charger. Whether the packs got topped off, I'm not sure, but we put them in, burped the TX
( couldn't find the dual-rate control, not obvious), but we were in a hurry to put her in, so off we went. The boat looked great on the water, handled nicely, and was rather slow. I couldn't tell the speed since my GPS didn't have a calendar, but in all it was a very nice boat. The owner tooled it around the lake and was very HAPPY with his very first electric boat and was ALL SMILES - after all, isn't this what it's all about ?
2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
'11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /MonoComment
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I drove one too. With a Leopard/Turnigy/6s LiPo setup. It's a turd. My opinion. For what ever that's worth.
In the boats defense..... it's plastic. Plus, the guy that built it had little time invested in sorting it out. So maybe it will get better. I just don't think it can go that fast. You can almost feel it flexing as you put the coals to it. If you've spent much time pushing a plastic hull to it's limits you'll know what I mean.
It's kind of a bummer. Traxxas had (still has for that matter) all the tools and resources to have made a really great offering. I can only guess they hired someone to develop it that didn't quite have their finger on the pulse of the boat market. Now their likely burnt on the possibility.Noisy personComment
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I think the basis of the whole Spartan "controversy", as witnessed here, can simply be boiled down to one's point of view. Most of us here have lots of (varying) levels of experience with FE, and find it very easy to point out the boat's weaknesses from our vantage point. Is this really fair ? I personally don't think it's a big stretch of the imagination to understand that Traxxas is targeting the very new, relatively unsophisticated first-time buyer who'se never been exposed to the more solid choices we all have come to know about. If we could see, in an imaginary world, the comments ONLY from those who'se very first exposure to r/c boating was the Spartan, without prior knowledge of what else is out there,
there might just be some quite happy folks, just like Joe's friend was the other day.
OTOH, claims Traxxas makes about the boat's ultimate potential does smack of unfair/untrue hyperbole and the knowing mind gets pretty offended for sure, I'll give you that.2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
'11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /MonoComment
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to organized racers - of course the "Lawyers" could spin it to somehow, in some parallel "R/C Universe " (intentional pun/reference) be weirdly defined as having some odd truth to it - As in : I raced a Prius with my Explorer the other day
And yup, AQ & PB do have some tasty stuff - I'm actually looking hard at the MC as we speak2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
'11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /MonoComment
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AQ and PB both looked to the hobbiests for some guidance and found some help. That's the part I find strange. Who convinced Traxxas to that setup to market? Doesn't make sense to me. Plus, why not use the hobbiests to test the thing for you? We're a pretty willing source of information. What do I know? That's why I'm just a hobbiest and they're a great big giant company.
When they said "ready to race" they meant ready to race other Traxxas Spartans. Can you imagine that boat running Q mono? 20mph off the pace. Killed. Call the diver.Noisy personComment
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