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  • jhurlbert
    Member
    • May 2019
    • 74

    #1

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    So i run this boat on 6s and i have the dual pickup rudder set up. (I don?t think it really runs any cooler than stock. Way to hot) I just got my dr props tornado 45 prop and i love it. First run with the new prop pulled the cover when the two graphine 6000mah batteries died and smoke came out. The top of one of the capacitors on the esc cracked and some hair like stuff came out.
  • jhurlbert
    Member
    • May 2019
    • 74

    #2
    Should i throw in a seaking 180a esc? Or just replace it and try hooking up one of these https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pr...rod=tfl-521b30 i bet it works better than the tiny pickups on the rudder

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    • Panther6834
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2020
      • 708

      #3
      Pardon my French, but...oh, $h!t. Just curious, but, are you still running the stock EC5 connectors? If so, sounds like a possible 'resistance overload', meaning that the higher resistance of the "too small for 6S" connectors got WAY too hot from too high a resistance, and everything went "up in smoke" domino-effect style. Also, what brand, and C-rating, were the batteries? A cheap brand, with tabs and/or wires that are too small can also increase resistance, thus increase heat. You might also want to check your motor...make sure it's not damaged/fried.

      As long as I'm still running only 4S, I feel confident that the EC5s are "good enough". However, before I start running 6S, I'll be swapping those for some larger 6mm connectors, as well as swapping the stock ESC for a Seaking 180A.


      ~ More peace, love, laughter, & kindness would make the world a MUCH better place

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      • jhurlbert
        Member
        • May 2019
        • 74

        #4
        I ordered that pick up and am going to make it dedicated to the seaking 180 i also ordered. Also going to put the stock rudder back on it if i can find it for motor cooling, If not just use one of the pickups on the dual pickup rudder and leave the other open or put in a y and feed both rudder pick ups to the motor

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        • UpliFT-RC
          UpliFT-RC
          • Jun 2019
          • 126

          #5
          I am doing some upgrades to my sonicwake and I have already upgraded to the dual rudder pickup kit from Boatbitz for my cooling system and I want to install a different ESC since the Dynamite 120A IS junk!
          I was thinking about getting the Seaking 180 ESC but it?s a tight squeeze in my hull, so wondering has anyone tried upgrading to the Turnigy Marine ESC 150A or the OES 150 ESC Radier and run it with a Leopard 4074 Motor?
          There are 6 versions and I was wondering what would be the best fit for my boat - I heard that the 1050 runs smooth! Please let me know your thoughts and opinions?
          1050 Kv/rpm per volt
          1400 Kv/rpm per volt
          1650 Kv/rpm per volt
          1800 Kv/rpm per volt
          2000 Kv/rpm per volt
          2200 Kv/rpm per volt


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          • Panther6834
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2020
            • 708

            #6
            I finally completed my "6S upgrade", installing the Seaking 180A ESC, and Leopard 3674 motor. First test run was on the stock prop, and, other than some 'hopping', she ran great...super cool, and approximately (estimated) the same speed as the stock electronics on 4S...but with a longer runtime (which is part of my goal.

            On the second run, using a CNC-4514 (larger diameter, but smaller pitch), and after slightly lowering the trim tabs (attempting to eliminate the 'hopping'), she ran super smooth...but, I ran into a problem. I thought that the motor had overheated, fried, and melted the solder on one of the motor-side bullets...but, after resoldering the connector, and 9 minutes of out-of-water, full-throttle testing, I believe that it was probably nothing more than a poor soldering job at the Leopard factory, as the motor appears to be good (I will, however, be keeping am extremely good eye on it for the next dozen, or so, runs).

            I have the BoatBitz adjustable trim tabs, and, while I was trying to hold off installing them until the new hull (it's a surprise, and will be revealed in the main SonicWake thread) arrives, I'm thinking about installing them now.

            Originally posted by UpliFT-RC
            I am doing some upgrades to my sonicwake and I have already upgraded to the dual rudder pickup kit from Boatbitz for my cooling system and I want to install a different ESC since the Dynamite 120A IS junk!
            I was thinking about getting the Seaking 180 ESC but it?s a tight squeeze in my hull, so wondering has anyone tried upgrading to the Turnigy Marine ESC 150A or the OES 150 ESC Radier and run it with a Leopard 4074 Motor?
            There are 6 versions and I was wondering what would be the best fit for my boat - I heard that the 1050 runs smooth! Please let me know your thoughts and opinions?
            1050 Kv/rpm per volt
            1400 Kv/rpm per volt
            1650 Kv/rpm per volt
            1800 Kv/rpm per volt
            2000 Kv/rpm per volt
            2200 Kv/rpm per volt
            First, there's nothing saying you would need to install the Seaking 180A in the stock location...and, truthfully, unless you add something like a fiberglass ESC mount on top of the plastic tray, it won't fit, anyway. Using double-sided, I've (temporarily) mounted it into the hull, alongside the plastic tray, pushed as close as I could get it. Yes, this DOES affect the balance, and it COULD affect the self-righting function. I discovered this quite quickly, as center-affixed batteries WILL cause the self-righting to fail.

            However, for the second test run, I positioned the batteries as close to the water chamber as I could, and, before starting the second run, I did a quick self-righting test - I put the boat into the water upside-down, and, within seconds, it's was doing it's thing. I do have the aforementioned fiberglass ESC mount, and, once I receive the new hull (probably a few weeks away), I will be using epoxy to affix it on top of the original ESC's mounting location, so as to re-center the weight. As for the OSE Raider 150A ESC, I am strongly considering one, albeit, for a different boat.

            Finally, for motor choices, you might want to read through the OSE & RC Groups SonicWake threads, as there are a few who have installed 40mm cans, and some of them have described the "troubles" of modifying the rear (front, if you're looking at it from the hull's bow-to-stern perspective) portion of the motor mount. The mount mounting to the shaft end isn't a problem, as long as the screw diameter is the same...but, the other end had a curvature designed specifically for a 36mm can. That's why, in selecting my 'upgrade' motor, I was only looking at 36mm cans. Looking back on my decision, if I were to do it again, the only change I might would be going for a different brand motor.

            Whatever you do, best of luck...and, have fun.


            ~ More peace, love, laughter, & kindness would make the world a MUCH better place

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            • jhurlbert
              Member
              • May 2019
              • 74

              #7
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              Seaking 180 in my boat on rubber mounted piece of plexiglass
              with my dr props tornado 45mm prop and 2 3s turnigy graphine 6000mah batts in series (they are heavy) after 2 passes either the motor fades or my batteries are going bad and about 5 full speed passes it gets to 150F. if i hammer on it the boat only runs for about 3 min and hits low voltage cut off. i even lowered the stock setting for the LVC on the seaking to get a little more run time but any longer run with this prop and it just gets really hot. But she fly's. i am going to throw the stock prop back on and see how big of a difference it makes
              Last edited by jhurlbert; 07-15-2020, 06:35 PM.

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              • Panther6834
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2020
                • 708

                #8
                Originally posted by jhurlbert
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                Seaking 180 in my boat no rubber mounted piece of plexiglass
                with my dr props tornado 45mm prop and 2 3s turnigy graphine 6000mah batts in series (they are heavy) after about 6 full speed passes it everything gets to 150F. But she fly's
                That's a cool solution...I like it.


                ~ More peace, love, laughter, & kindness would make the world a MUCH better place

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                • UpliFT-RC
                  UpliFT-RC
                  • Jun 2019
                  • 126

                  #9
                  #Panther6834 - superb idea with the plexiglass! Do you know what size that pcs you fit in your SW by chance? Check it out - I was thinking since I push my two 3 Lipos all the towards the front of the boat when running, it which leaves me about 2-3 inches left of the battery tray that I don't even use! I am thinking about using my dermal and cut away that 2-3 inches they I don't use! Cut a pierce of plexiglass, just like you did and use epoxy like you did and install and fit the Seaking 180 ESC What are your thoughts and concerns?

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                  • Panther6834
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2020
                    • 708

                    #10
                    Originally posted by UpliFT-RC
                    #Panther6834 - superb idea with the plexiglass! Do you know what size that pcs you fit in your SW by chance? Check it out - I was thinking since I push my two 3 Lipos all the towards the front of the boat when running, it which leaves me about 2-3 inches left of the battery tray that I don't even use! I am thinking about using my dermal and cut away that 2-3 inches they I don't use! Cut a pierce of plexiglass, just like you did and use epoxy like you did and install and fit the Seaking 180 ESC What are your thoughts and concerns?

                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]170184[/ATTACH]
                    The plexiglass install isn't mine...it's the Ops (


                    ~ More peace, love, laughter, & kindness would make the world a MUCH better place

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                    • Panther6834
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2020
                      • 708

                      #11
                      Originally posted by UpliFT-RC
                      #Panther6834 - superb idea with the plexiglass! Do you know what size that pcs you fit in your SW by chance? Check it out - I was thinking since I push my two 3 Lipos all the towards the front of the boat when running, it which leaves me about 2-3 inches left of the battery tray that I don't even use! I am thinking about using my dermal and cut away that 2-3 inches they I don't use! Cut a pierce of plexiglass, just like you did and use epoxy like you did and install and fit the Seaking 180 ESC What are your thoughts and concerns?

                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]170184[/ATTACH]
                      The plexiglass install isn't mine...it's the Op's, jhurlbert. I can't take credit.


                      ~ More peace, love, laughter, & kindness would make the world a MUCH better place

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                      • UpliFT-RC
                        UpliFT-RC
                        • Jun 2019
                        • 126

                        #12
                        I am thinking about taking a dermal and taking the back end of the battery tray off AND REMOVE MY stock 120a Dynamite ESC and install my Fiberglass Mount that I bought from OSE to fit my Seaking 180 V3 ESC! Instead of installing the SEAKING 180 ESC off to the right of the boat, I am going to install it in the middle of the hull. Ones I remove the stock ESC and i will be using a dermal and grind down the back of my battery tray and then I will be able to fit that Fiber glass tray flush in the middle that i got from OSE! Spec on the Fiber glass mount is the following - Measures: 78x73mm 17.5mm high. I think its going to work perfect, crossing my fingers :)

                        Here is a short video on how I am going to be doing it, please let me know your thoughts and concerns?

                        Sorry I meant a Seaking 180 ESC at second 0:36!!


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                        Last edited by UpliFT-RC; 07-22-2020, 07:57 AM.
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                        • Panther6834
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2020
                          • 708

                          #13
                          Originally posted by UpliFT-RC
                          I am thinking about taking a dermal and taking the back end of the battery tray off AND REMOVE MY stock 120a Dynamite ESC and install my Fiberglass Mount that I bought from OSE to fit my Seaking 180 V3 ESC! Instead of installing the SEAKING 180 ESC off to the right of the boat, I am going to install it in the middle of the hull. Ones I remove the stock ESC and i will be using a dermal and grind down the back of my battery tray and then I will be able to fit that Fiber glass tray flush in the middle that i got from OSE! Spec on the Fiber glass mount is the following - Measures: 78x73mm 17.5mm high. I think its going to work perfect, crossing my fingers :)

                          Here is a short video on how I am going to be doing it, please let me know your thoughts and concerns?

                          Sorry I meant a Seaking 180 ESC at second 0:36!!


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                          Just so you know, having the Staging 180A ESC slightly to the side does NOT necessarily alter the self-righting. That's where mine is temporarily mounted. By placing the batteries as close to the flood chamber as possible, self-righting still works.

                          That being said, what you're planning on doing is, essentially, the same thing I'll be doing (using the same fiberglass mount, which I already have) for the ESC's permanent mounting position.


                          ~ More peace, love, laughter, & kindness would make the world a MUCH better place

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                          • UpliFT-RC
                            UpliFT-RC
                            • Jun 2019
                            • 126

                            #14
                            Panther6834 - i BOUGHT a OSE Fiberglass Mount for Seaking 180 V3 ESC Measures: 78x73mm 17.5mm high and this is how I am going to install mine by dermaling the battery tray out since I only use the front of it and this is how I am going to do it!

                            BJ42'' / Miss Geico 36'' / TFL Hydro 35'' / Retrieval boat 30'' Tug
                            Make sure you check out my Youtube channel -----> shorturl.at/ntFQ7

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                            • Panther6834
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2020
                              • 708

                              #15
                              Originally posted by UpliFT-RC
                              Panther6834 - i BOUGHT a OSE Fiberglass Mount for Seaking 180 V3 ESC Measures: 78x73mm 17.5mm high and this is how I am going to install mine by dermaling the battery tray out since I only use the front of it and this is how I am going to do it!

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA4C-uKVTBI
                              I know, and I was agreeing with what your plan is. As I also said, in regards to the "permanent" mounting position of my Seaking 180A, I plan on doing, essentially, the same thing (I also already bought the FG mount). I'm just waiting on the new hull (have a guy up in Oregon working on something "special").


                              ~ More peace, love, laughter, & kindness would make the world a MUCH better place

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