Going to try 6s on stock setup wish me luck

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  • Piranhafreak
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 25

    #1

    Going to try 6s on stock setup wish me luck

    As says in title i am just bored with the boat and its stock form so im going to try 6s in it as just props alone didnt do a whole lot. So i am back to stock prop rewired the electronics added a receiver battery and throwing in some 6s lipos and we will see i have heard this is possable i will update after tested
  • JimClark
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 5907

    #2
    Why not just send me the ESC before you try 6S
    "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
    Billy Graham

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    • Piranhafreak
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 25

      #3
      well any of those people who said this can be done with a stock setup is wrong i will try to get some pics. It was fast before the fire complete meltdown here i was running seprate battery for the reciever that esc just cant handle that kind of voltage so NO DONT TRY 6S ON STOCK SETUP

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      • Fluid
        Fast and Furious
        • Apr 2007
        • 8011

        #4
        It may have worked had you reduced the prop size first. Adding 50% to the voltage with the stock prop was a guaranteed burn-down. Lesson learned young grasshopper.



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        • Piranhafreak
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 25

          #5
          Yes lesson learned i tried it because multiple people said it should work well nope and i dont believe that it would have worked well with a smaller prop it may have well ran the boat but would not have been much if any faster then stock 4s setup

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          • martin
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2010
            • 2887

            #6
            You should of asked on here first & saved the esc burning, No way 6s on a 60amp esc.

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            • Diesel6401
              Memento Vivere
              • Oct 2009
              • 4204

              #7
              I think that PB esc's are rated at 21v not 22.2 (6s) that could also be a good indication of failure. If you would have propped down it could have worked the question would have then been how long. Those esc's are pretty $$$$ you should have sold it first... That's just me!
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              - Diesel's Fleet
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              • LarrysDrifter
                Big Booty Daddy
                • May 2010
                • 3278

                #8
                Glad it wasnt mine. Research does pay for itself. That often means dont listen to a new guys advise...not because they are stupid, but because they lack experience.

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                • Piranhafreak
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 25

                  #9
                  Well from what i could find people were running 5s with no problems and others were saying it could be done i was ready to lose the esc and motor i wasent worried about that but i got more then i bargained for as the boat is a total loss everything was destroyed only thing that is any good is the outdrive rudder all outside metal

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                  • Fluid
                    Fast and Furious
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 8011

                    #10
                    You have to be careful when reading about what "other people" recommend. Many times they have never tired what they are recommending. They may have tried higher voltage in cold weather with low performance cells. They may have run for twenty seconds before the boat flipped, saving them a burn-down. The next time they run it they may burn down. Sometimes they just lie about it. Don't listen to just anybody either, especially on some of the "other boards". Learn whose recommendation to trust and whose to laugh at.

                    There is a lot of good info on OSE, but even here you'll get bad info from some posters. The names Total Package and X-Factor come to mind.....


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                    • Stinger9D9
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 355

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Fluid
                      You have to be careful when reading about what "other people" recommend. Many times they have never tired what they are recommending. They may have tried higher voltage in cold weather with low performance cells. They may have run for twenty seconds before the boat flipped, saving them a burn-down. The next time they run it they may burn down. Sometimes they just lie about it. Don't listen to just anybody either, especially on some of the "other boards".
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                      I couldn't agree more.

                      The other thing to think about is...if it's too good (or easy) to be true, it probably is. If all it took to add speed was to just keep upping the voltage, everyone would be doing it.

                      The main reason to up the voltage is so that (in conjunction with running a lower kv motor) you will draw less amperage at the same prop rpm. At that point you can then slowly up the prop size until your amp draw gets too high, then start all over again with more volts and an even lower kv motor (back down to a small prop and slowly work back up in size) until you're satisfied.

                      Without changing to a lower rpm motor (and of course the ESC to a higher voltage unit) before raising the volts, you're just asking for trouble.

                      Just making the motor spin faster is not the way to add reliable speed.

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                      • Piranhafreak
                        Junior Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 25

                        #12
                        the other reason i tried it was this statment by a valued member on this board



                        Impulse 31
                        Stock – 32mph on 4S-45C
                        Stock – 47mph on 6S-25C
                        Stock – 47mph on 6S-50C
                        1.9” Prop – 48mph on 6S-25C (Yes, we know you told us not to try this prop with this setup, and as you warned, we fried the ESC on this setup)



                        You would think when he said this he ment stock which would be stock esc motor ect but that must not be the case

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                        • Piranhafreak
                          Junior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 25

                          #13
                          in no way shape or form am i tyring to blame anyone but when some one from this manufacture says this you would think it is valid

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                          • Piranhafreak
                            Junior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 25

                            #14
                            [QUOTE=It measures about 29.5" down the keel... 31" to the overhang.

                            The hull has a unique spray rail design that should help keep it from submarining most of the time, as well...

                            Initial speeds are typical of the power system... ProBoat took all their boats out and did some radar testing, using bone stock, out of the box boats with stock, un-prepped ProBoat props and here are the notes they sent me for this boat:

                            Impulse 31
                            Stock – 32mph on 4S-45C
                            Stock – 47mph on 6S-25C
                            Stock – 47mph on 6S-50C
                            1.9” Prop – 48mph on 6S-25C (Yes, we know you told us not to try this prop with this setup, and as you warned, we fried the ESC on this setup)

                            So, I'd expect about 40 or so with the right prop on 4S and obviously much faster with more cells. And WAY faster with more motor!
                            Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA[/QUOTE]


                            actually i take that back as this was my deciding factor with going 6s when someone from the manufacture makes a statment like this you would assume its true and this was my deciding factor with going 6s and well now i have a melted and completly destroyed boat i guess it my loss

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                            • Diesel6401
                              Memento Vivere
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 4204

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Piranhafreak
                              in no way shape or form am i tyring to blame anyone but when some one from this manufacture says this you would think it is valid
                              Darin's job is to test and pretty much beat the crap out of the stock equipment and see how it responds. He does a good job of keeping the crowd in the loop on what he is doing and if it works or not, but it is the responsibilty of the owner/operator of the model to see what the manufactors recommended setup is: the manual states (2) 7.4v lipos or 4s http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo...200-Manual.pdf page 2 of manual. When deviating from the manufactors recommened setup the owner/operator takes the risk of something going wrong. The information is written in manual for reason. He also mentioned he fried the esc, whether it was the combo of the prop + 6s or just 6s we don't know. He said he was using 6s when the esc went.
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