***NEW*** Pro Boat UL-19 30" Sport Hydro

[Doby]

Nobody reads manuals.....

[Mxkid261]

well that's kind of my issue. I bought this boat with the understanding that it could be ran stock with 6s. I have a couple of paris of 3s batts which is why I went with this boat when I seen on website and the box that it could be ran stock on 6s. and clearly that is not the case. so now I'm a little pissy lol

Directly from the manual, took me all of 2 minutes to look up.

"The included electronics are rated for 2S–6S LiPo
batteries; however, running the stock propeller nonstop
on a 6S battery could overheat your electronics or
damage your batteries. If you run the stock propeller on
6S, we recommend using full throttle on straight line
passes only. Return passes should be at half throttle
to reduce the heat of the electronics. If you want to
run 6S nonstop, use optional propellers (PRB282006 or
PRB282027)."

"The included propeller provides the best performance
between 4S (14.8V) and 5S LiPo (18.5V). 5S configuration
can be achieved by mounting a 3S LiPo battery
(DYNB3811EC) on the left side of the boat and a 2S LiPo
battery (DYNB3810EC) on the right side of the boat.
The added weight of the 3S battery on the left side will
counteract torque twist caused by the propeller spinning
at high RPM."

[ray schrauwen]

Can't you guys have fun what the stock setup? Stay with 4s maybe sharpen a prop. You can easily get 55 on the stock setup.

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I hate to say it but some people don't look past the advertisement of it running on 6s and since car, plane and heli guys have 3s packs all around and few if any 4s packs, you get this myopic reading of manuals. With the exception of boats there aren't that many RC vehicles running on 4s and I say this in reflection to what is offered many places for battery selection. Hobby King has far less 4s pack selections than 2s or 3setc. Other shops are similar.
It makes it harder these days to buy budget cells in 4s.

Rant over. Darin spelled out the issue.

[limitedr1]

my most sincere apologies to everyone here. I did not know there was a revised manual online. in the manual that came with the boat that section that was quoted above is not there. no where in my manual is that stated. I have read several times. I'm guessing it was revised and put online after the boat was launched. I did not mean to offend darin or anyone else with my post for help with overheating issues. I would think a simple " yes there will be heating issues with the stock prop, we have done some testing and to run consistently on 6s we recommend these two props etc. I did not expect to be belittled here. especially by a rep of the boat company that probably knew that it was revised and not in the customer paper copy that came with the boat. but chose to respond in that way. craigP....I am trying to further my knowledge of these things, I thought it would have been a good place. again I apologize to everyone here. an honest thank you to the others that did post and try to help.

[CraigP]

Limited, I have re-read my post and you are right, there is frustration there. For that, I apologize to you and the forum. But the content is dead on. Those of us who have been involved in rc boats for a while get frustrated when new member after new member do the same thing. Disregard stock trim, shoot for the moon, then complain when the outcome is not good. There is so much information on this site. There are the calculators that can guesstimate to an extreme degree of precision what prop, motor and battery will do with a setup.

For us that are serious about this sport, much enjoyment is derived from the "exploration" of a given hull. The finding out, the learning, tweaking, reading and filling out the experience of mastering a hull. Perhaps there will always be this disconnect between folks that just want to drop an RTR in the water and go, and those that what to push lines and experiment. The sport needs them all! Sorry, but you turned out to be the "whipping boy" on this topic, and you didn't deserve that. Bottom line, that's a good boat! It's SO much better that a UL-1. So please try to do some research on stuff you would like to try. If you got questions about the research, we are all in to help, as this site has demonstrated thousands of times. I guess the heat has got us seeing red!

[Mxkid261]

my most sincere apologies to everyone here. I did not know there was a revised manual online. in the manual that came with the boat that section that was quoted above is not there. no where in my manual is that stated. I have read several times. I'm guessing it was revised and put online after the boat was launched. I did not mean to offend darin or anyone else with my post for help with overheating issues. I would think a simple " yes there will be heating issues with the stock prop, we have done some testing and to run consistently on 6s we recommend these two props etc. I did not expect to be belittled here. especially by a rep of the boat company that probably knew that it was revised and not in the customer paper copy that came with the boat. but chose to respond in that way. craigP....I am trying to further my knowledge of these things, I thought it would have been a good place. again I apologize to everyone here. an honest thank you to the others that did post and try to help.

No need to be sorry. I can see how that would be a little frustrating if the manual that came with the boat isn't the same as the full pdf manual online. I would expect it to come with a full manual.

[fweasel]

Most of those of us who are experienced with RC Boats in general, KNOW you don't use a 2000KV motor on 6S for anything other than a pair of very brief straight-line passes.

Unless you're running a 29 V3 cat or Zelos...

[limitedr1]

probaot manual.jpg I don't know it its a matter of full manual or if it was changed after the fact. but page 5 online is clearly different then my manual I received with the boat. kind of a mute point now, just didn't want you all to think I'm a bigger jack ass then what some of you probably already do. but clearly it was added after I think

[Mxkid261]

Unless you're running a 29 V3 cat or Zelos...

The veles looks like more of a 4s boat. Sure, it CAN run on 6s, but that probably doesn't mean you should be doing wide open oval laps till LV kicks in. My s10 with a 4.8 LSX and a borg s475 can push 20 psi, but I know what the risk is running it at that. Daily drive it on 8 psi and be safe, take it to the track for a couple passes and jack the controller up. My buddy never ran his stock v3 geico on 6s unless it was for a couple SAW passes, he KNEW it would run hot if he did any more than that.

[bigcam406]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]153053[/ATTACH] I don't know it its a matter of full manual or if it was changed after the fact. but page 5 online is clearly different then my manual I received with the boat. kind of a mute point now, just didn't want you all to think I'm a bigger jack ass then what some of you probably already do. but clearly it was added after I think

Makes me wonder why they updated the manual in the first place. Someone forgot to input the original information or was the problem discovered after the initial release and Proboat is just covering their behind? Its not your fault at all. Hope it gets sorted for you.

[CraigP]

Seems like some marketing bozo threw "6s compatible" in there... the stock motor clearly is not the right speed for 6s. Man, I run a 1250kv in my 8s setup... BTW, it's not the size of the motor that makes it cell compliant, it's the kv. The size comes into play when you run larger props. It kinda looks like to me the stock motor should be a 4072 or equivalent. 36 seems a bit wimpy...

[dtacmed]

Any initial reconditions. Strut setting, battery placement etc. Mine just came in will be running 4s 5000 50c . Thanks

[CraigP]

I don't have that boat, but from the recent posts and discussions, that boat is pretty fast stock. I would start there and see if it's quick enough for you. You can search for the UL-19 and pick up prop info and strut depth on this site. I believe they are setting the strut neutral and the same depth as the back of the sponsons.

[MADRCER]

ABC 1716 vs Pro Boat 1.7x1.6 Prop

The Pro Boat prop has slightly less pitch than the ABC 1716.


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[CraigP]

Man, huge rake on those props!