Brushless Miss Elam

[video200]

My vote goes to the Pro Boat Elam. Faster, Slower, Sharper, Rounder, Whatever... I think the Elam is a better looking boat.

might get one during spring time. right now a ice breaker is more apropiate

[Steven Vaccaro]

From the first video's it looks as if the UL1 is faster, but in my eyes the Elam is a much better scale looking boat. There is more than speed in rc boating. Remember not every rc boater has a club to race these with in the country. Some of the most fun I have is playing with my son and his pt109. It does about 10mph max.

[detox]

Currently on Aquacrafts web sight they are having a survey of what would be a good scale boat to manufacture. Though it would not be scale, I told them to build a cool looking Rigger.



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[Brushless55]

From the first video's it looks as if the UL1 is faster, but in my eyes the Elam is a much better scale looking boat. There is more than speed in rc boating. Remember not every rc boater has a club to race these with in the country. Some of the most fun I have is playing with my son and his pt109. It does about 10mph max.

Good pointe, it looks great! And with what I've seen of the BJ26 on 5s and 6s. The Miss Elam should be fast as well..

[Rob13]

New Elam is awesome. Very stable at high speed and stays on plane in the corners. Got mine just before Christmas and am very impressed. Down sides are a few and include need for added flotation to magnetic cover and battery tray designed specifically for 7.2 volt stick pack. 20 volt speed control maximum might affect some of the Lipo guys. A lot better looking than the UL-1.

[Jeff Wohlt]

All around a heavier boat for the Elam. Andy knows his stuff on hydro dynamics. I do not think the AQ will handle chop near as well with the sponson shape. I am also concerned how the hull will hold up on the AQ after some battling...turn fins may be an issue already.

Also, realize the AQ is lighter and runs a 2030 KV motor compared to 1500 KV in the PC vesion. Lighten the Elam up and run the same motor. The AQ is made for top end by design of the front sponsons...battling it out in a corner of rough water will be the real issue and which comes out in front.

I still have some video of D Twaits jr running the UL1 years ago with a wire drive and Aveox and it is still faster than anything I have seen go thru a corner. I will try and load it up on this site.

Forget the radio issue...they will be available before long anyway.

[Steven Vaccaro]

All around a heavier boat for the Elam. Andy knows his stuff on hydro dynamics. I do not think the AQ will handle chop near as well with the sponson shape. I am also concerned how the hull will hold up on the AQ after some battling...turn fins may be an issue already.

Also, realize the AQ is lighter and runs a 2030 KV motor compared to 1500 KV in the PC vesion. Lighten the Elam up and run the same motor. The AQ is made for top end by design of the front sponsons...battling it out in a corner of rough water will be the real issue and which comes out in front.

I still have some video of D Twaits jr running the UL1 years ago with a wire drive and Aveox and it is still faster than anything I have seen go thru a corner. I will try and load it up on this site.

Forget the radio issue...they will be available before long anyway.

Actually the Elam is lighter by about 6 ounces or so.

[Jeff Wohlt]

Wow... 6 oz is a good decrease in weight. Thanks for clearing that up...even better. I thought it ran a radio box and all that. Must be a nice FG job.

Is that hull only or just all but no cells?

[Ub Hauled]

Hmmm...

[Steven Vaccaro]

Wow... 6 oz is a good decrease in weight. Thanks for clearing that up...even better. I thought it ran a radio box and all that. Must be a nice FG job.

Is that hull only or just all but no cells?

That was out of the box weight minus cells. As Jay Turner has said on many occasions, the weight doesn't really matter with these. I just wanted to clear the air after reading the opposite on another forum.

[Jeff Wohlt]

Yes, a little weight is not an issue anymore...I still like lighter if possible. I can always add to it if needed but it usually allows me to push a little bigger prop.

So who has an Elam that would drop a new AQ 6 pole in it to test?

[Ub Hauled]

I am considering exactly that Jeff, funny you mentioned...
:)

[AndyKunz]

Man, if I add any more weight I'm gonna look like Santa Claus. The holidays are tough!

Oh, you mean BOAT weight.

Never mind :)

Andy

[AndyKunz]

I still have some video of D Twaits jr running the UL1 years ago with a wire drive and Aveox and it is still faster than anything I have seen go thru a corner. I will try and load it up on this site.

Is this the 20meg video you meant, Jeff? It's from the 2000 Nats in NJ. The yellow boat that the camera follows is my UL1ABU shown in the picture below from the 1999 Nats, painted up as UL-10 Earls (the real boat ran under Earl's sponsorship in 1999). It was powered by an Aveox spinning an M447.

The blue boat chasing it (it cuts a buoy and spins out) is Larry Larson's Bandit hull, I believe it was known as the Larsony when it was being manufactured. I think Larry used the same motor but I'm not sure about the prop. Dick or Larry would know more about that boat than I remember.

It looks fast, but it was 1/2 mile race in about 1:20 according to the video.

Andy

[Jeff Wohlt]

yep...great video with some serious driving. Those were probably 2000 or 2400 cells. Can you imagine how they would run now with the motors and the cells we have?

I still have one you sent me in ABS put together by your kids. I may decide to put it together and finish it but it needs cutting apart to put bracing in it.