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  • Darin Jordan
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 8335

    #166
    Originally posted by GP73
    I have the wobble too, about 2mm in each direction. I never crashed mine, so it could be a wear issue.

    I bought a Hyperformance stub shaft here on OSE: it's a drop-in replacement and very well built, but it doesn't turn as freely as the stock one, even after greasing it. I'm hoping it will loosen up a little with usage.

    Did you try the M445? How is it?
    The stub on these is basically the same as a stock K&B stub... which also wore out very quickly. The Hyperformance stub is the WAY to go on one of these. It'll last forever, and also has a little extra length for those larger prop hubs.
    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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    • AlanN
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 334

      #167
      Originally posted by GP73
      I have the wobble too, about 2mm in each direction. I never crashed mine, so it could be a wear issue.

      I bought a Hyperformance stub shaft here on OSE: it's a drop-in replacement and very well built, but it doesn't turn as freely as the stock one, even after greasing it. I'm hoping it will loosen up a little with usage.

      Did you try the M445? How is it?
      I bought a hyperperf stub shaft and found that the flange on the squared end rubs against the lower end. You could sand it lightly to have proper clearance.

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      • ron1950
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Aug 2010
        • 3024

        #168
        where does one get the hyperperformance stub end?part number etc?
        MY RETIREMENT PLAN?????.....POWERBALL
        74 vintage kirby clasic hydro, pursuit mono, mg, 47'' mono, popeye hydro...

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        • Darin Jordan
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 8335

          #169
          Originally posted by ron1950
          where does one get the hyperperformance stub end?part number etc?
          http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=hpi-psa35

          I'd recommend either trimming down the grubs or getting some shorter ones...
          Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
          "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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          • ron1950
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2010
            • 3024

            #170
            thanks.....figured out what the grubs are and wow why do they stick out like thumbs on that drive dog? lol
            MY RETIREMENT PLAN?????.....POWERBALL
            74 vintage kirby clasic hydro, pursuit mono, mg, 47'' mono, popeye hydro...

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            • GP73
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 544

              #171
              Originally posted by AlanN
              I bought a hyperperf stub shaft and found that the flange on the squared end rubs against the lower end. You could sand it lightly to have proper clearance.
              I was wondering if getting a Hyperformance Angle Drive would be better overall. Less weight, better construction, no teflon tube, awesome look.

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              • Darin Jordan
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 8335

                #172
                Originally posted by GP73
                I was wondering if getting a Hyperformance Angle Drive would be better overall. Less weight, better construction, no teflon tube, awesome look.

                Has a different transom to prop distance. I think it's tucked up tighter, if I remember correctly. I have one at home, I'll try to look tonight.

                Pull the Teflon and do a brass liner like I showed previously. ZERO drag and super easy to maintain.

                Better Looking??? I SCOFF at that notion...

                Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                • GP73
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 544

                  #173
                  Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                  Has a different transom to prop distance. I think it's tucked up tighter, if I remember correctly. I have one at home, I'll try to look tonight.

                  Pull the Teflon and do a brass liner like I showed previously. ZERO drag and super easy to maintain.

                  Better Looking??? I SCOFF at that notion...
                  Yeah, I've tried that as soon as I got the Stiletto... Turns out I'm not very good at bending brass tubing...

                  I'll try again at some point, I have the entire winter anyway.

                  And look is subjective, isn't it?

                  Thanks for a beautiful boat!

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                  • Darin Jordan
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 8335

                    #174
                    Originally posted by GP73
                    Yeah, I've tried that as soon as I got the Stiletto... Turns out I'm not very good at bending brass tubing...

                    Next time you try... heat the brass to an orange glow and then let it cool. That will anneal the metal and it'll bend without any issues. Once you get it shaped, I think you can harden it again. I just annealed mine, bent it to shape, and then put it in. Seems to be holding up great!

                    Looks are subjective...

                    But watch for that prop setback. These boats don't always like that to be changed...
                    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                    • GP73
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 544

                      #175
                      Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                      Next time you try... heat the brass to an orange glow and then let it cool. That will anneal the metal and it'll bend without any issues. Once you get it shaped, I think you can harden it again. I just annealed mine, bent it to shape, and then put it in. Seems to be holding up great!

                      Looks are subjective...

                      But watch for that prop setback. These boats don't always like that to be changed...
                      Yes, I don't think I made it hot enough. That's why I need to retry with a new piece. I should really blueprint the sponsons too, but I've never done it and I'm afraid to ruin the hull.

                      No plans of buying the angle drive for now, but if you get around to check the measurements on your unit that would great!

                      About the stub shaft: I was surprised to see the grub screws sticking out that much, what would be the reason for that? They run out of shorter ones?

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                      • Darin Jordan
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 8335

                        #176
                        Originally posted by GP73

                        About the stub shaft: I was surprised to see the grub screws sticking out that much, what would be the reason for that? They run out of shorter ones?

                        I think, actually, that the longer ones are CHEAPER... I just stuck them on the end of an old allen wrench, and sanded the ends down until they were shorter. Works fine.

                        Next time you try to do your brass... heat it up, then slide a piece of 1/4" flex (I think that's the right size), down inside the brass before you bend it. On mine, it was a "just fits", fit, and it keeps the tubing from kinking. I just worked it very slowly until I got it where I wanted it.
                        Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                        "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                        • forescott
                          Hopelessly Addicted to RC
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 2686

                          #177
                          Darin, Which lawless flex did you use for the stilletto? I found K&b/3.5 K&b/7.5 & a flex for the g-drive?? My stock flex has a pretty good "kink" where the square end was pressed. So I might as well upgrade.

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                          • forescott
                            Hopelessly Addicted to RC
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 2686

                            #178
                            I received 2 stilletto outboards today w/o motors. The first thing I noticed is that the prop shafts are very difficult to turn by hand. They should spin pretty easy without a motor attached. So I took one apart and tried spinning the flex shaft by itself inside the teflon. Still difficult to spin! I can see this being very difficult for any brushless motor to spin any prop with this much resistance. I think adding the brass tubing in leu of the teflon is going to be a "must" for the stilletto.
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                            Last edited by forescott; 10-26-2010, 06:31 PM.

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                            • forescott
                              Hopelessly Addicted to RC
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 2686

                              #179
                              I also found that my flex cables have a pretty good "kink" where the square end was pressed. This can't help either!
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                              • Rumdog
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 6453

                                #180
                                OH. That's no good!

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