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  • maxmekker
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 412

    #1

    Miss geico Water issue.

    So I was having some issue with the MG last summer with water comming up into the boat.

    Have a look.



    This was towards aug last year, and I had been trying to figure it out. I lubed the shaft, and after just a few min of running it would be all over the inside, and the shaft would be wet,and free of grease. So I just cleaned it out and it hit the shelf.

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    While prepping a mystic for a friend I found some different sleev's in his parts bag , and I got to ask if I have it right in the pic. ?

    Do the teflon bearing just cover the back ? Ore am I supossed to have a part 'B' for the front part of the shaft ( where the kintec bushing covers the shaft) I have the Kintec Shaft + bushing wich is a tad longer , Not sure if the shaft is worn , so I will try to replace it with the new one I have. Any other idea on what to do and look for ?

    thanks for looking
    Drammen rock City
  • d.a.v.e
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 222

    #2
    Let us know what you find out.. I have the same issue. I pressure tested the lines in the boat with no leaks but I always seem to come back with some water in my boat and it gets worse the more I run?

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    • maxmekker
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 412

      #3
      Sure, I to tested the lines and I think the water jackets on the motor cooling is tight to.

      But do I have the placement of the sleve on the top flex shaft right, no more support for the shaft inside the house is needed ( not sure the kintec do either but it's longer )
      Drammen rock City

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      • HYDROJERRY
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jan 2010
        • 2503

        #4
        I noticed afew things on your video,, you need heatshrink covering where the stuffing tube goes into the strut,,,your gap inbetween the drive dog and the strut looks alittle to much space, i run mine about a 1/4 of that and you should slip a peice of rubber tubing over where the flex comes out of the stuffing box inside the hull,, all this should help or cure your problem..try these and let us no!!!

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        • Megam0j0
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 24

          #5
          Grease the shaft. Many times water intrudes up the stuffing tube. Check ur screws to see if they leak water

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          • maxmekker
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 412

            #6
            I will try to take a run with a new sleve bearing and flexshaft like in the pic and shrink tube over the strutt / stuffing tube as I don't like the gap it makes.


            I can't remeber if I removed a bushing in the front , where the stuffing tube enters the strutt , before I installed the KINTEC uppgrade bushing . But the grove in the strutt is lager than the stuffingtube 'end' going into the struttt ,( see pic) and I think it feels flimsy, raising ore lowering the strutt makes a small gap as you can se i the pic.

            I also, as you mentioned Hydro, have a fuel line pice at the outcome towards the motor.

            After just a few minut's of running all the grease is gone from the Flexshaft , and if I take it appart at site, clean/dry it, and lube it all again, it will be the same after a few minut's.

            It's like the lube (have both Proboat and aqua) is not water proof any more , peeling right off if even a small dab of water enters the tube.
            Will post back when I have had a go at it.
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            Drammen rock City

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            • HYDROJERRY
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Jan 2010
              • 2503

              #7
              I say all that and mine has always been pritty dry inside but after removeing all the hardware to install some other decals and reclearcoat it, i put it all back together and ran it this morring and mine is now slinging water out of the shaft alittle more than it used two?? I also have a sling gard on mine made out of a peice of plasic...I no when my PB Miss Elam would run she would get like a half cup of water and found the motor cooler was pumping it into the hull..

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              • maxmekker
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 412

                #8
                I thought I had it, all the 4 screws holding the rudder part were , just a tad, loose, making it gap between the strutt/suffingtube. But it spray's water from the flexshaft , easy to tell from the 'tupeware lid'.It has a clear spray patterns just above where the flex comes out/into the motor. Also I think some is comming in by the cooiling line hole at the back. more testing soon.
                Drammen rock City

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                • maxmekker
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 412

                  #9
                  From last night. A few passes with the geico, and the water was in the hull. Nice spray pattern in the 'tupeware lid' from where the flexs enter the motor coupler.



                  Here is the flex after a few minut's run.
                  Attached Files
                  Drammen rock City

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                  • HYDROJERRY
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 2503

                    #10
                    Huum, now mine is looking like that too and getting the same spray, has to be something in the strut area forcing it up the shaft!!!

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                    • skyhighdiver
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 287

                      #11
                      I have the same problem on both my MGs. After my last redo (50+ submarien) i decieded to try a few things after the rebuild and the one that has worked for me on both is I now have heat shrinked the stuffing box and rudder together and I put 3 full pumps of proboat grease in the tube before I install the shaft I can run 2 sets of batteries through here now before I get noticeable water.If i run 2 more setts before greasing i will end up with about 1/4 cup or less.I drilled a drain hole in back and just drainer her before each new set.
                      Miss Geico (now white) Leopard 4074 2200kv motor T180 esc,x642 54.6 mph
                      Miss Geico 2(now black and white)4074 2000kv motor, T180 esc m445 51.2 mph
                      FAT PEOPLE ARE HARD TO KIDNAP

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                      • maxmekker
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 412

                        #12
                        Hmm, I did not have a water issue untill late last sumer. Not sure how many packs I had thrue it before it started. Changed the bushing + flex for kintec and ran the leo + 180 almost the whole time ( stock setup was only a week ore so)

                        It just kinda happend, note sure why ore how, ohh well, jkust have to tinke with it some more.
                        Drammen rock City

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                        • HYDROJERRY
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 2503

                          #13
                          well i just tryed something cheap and new on mine,, i think as time passes running the boat the flex stretches wich in turn leaves a bigger gap between the drive dog so i got a little rubber o-ring and stuck it on inbetween the nylon washer and the strut so it can compress and help seal the shaft and it worked well,, stopped the water spray by half, i run 4s1p so very long run times and i also made a little plastic cover over the flex shaft to the motor and there was just a few droplets on it after the run!!!!

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                          • maxmekker
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 412

                            #14
                            Hmm. Nice to hear. Well I had a go last night and today. My friends mystic runs great with the 180 esc+ prather 220 and 2x2s 4500 nano. No bounch and bone dry inside.

                            Mine bounches arround the water , and the kintec setup is draging in the water to,got to look into that also. And after one run, I see a small spray on the tupeware lid ,and after the second run, it's water all over,and all grease is gone from the flex, it's clean, like if I took it out and wiped it. Not sure where it all goes , coz the amount of grease spray inside is not the same as I put on the flex. So today I, again greased up the flex, added heat shring on the strutt (where it meets the stuffing). Filled the bathtube and tested to see if it leaked anywhere, after a couple of houers in the tube( I weighted it down so it salt low in the water ) it was nothing, dry, so it has to come up at the nylon washer, eveen though I have it almost rubbing the strutt. Maybe the flex is worn, and needs to be replaced and the plastic tube to. If that does not help I'm lost.
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                            Drammen rock City

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                            • HYDROJERRY
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 2503

                              #15
                              mine had that same spray on the lid, hang on a minute and ill take pics of my stuff to show and yes i didnt have hardly any water after the oring on the flex!!!

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