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  • tlandauer
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2011
    • 5666

    #31
    I love all your ideas, i am away from my boats now, the 1st thing I will do when i have a chance is to put back the stock rudder and adjust the strut as well as i can, then i need to see why mine chine walks, ( no one else seems to have this problem). I can't deal with the amount of bounce I have with the off-set rudder. So I am puzzled as why the Mystic bounces less with the off-set. I know it is different from the Kintec design, but off-set is off-set, there should be no mysteries to it.
    Too many boats, not enough time...

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    • maxmekker
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 412

      #32
      Yes, I had a look for the stock rudder my self last night , but I don't remember where it is , darn. The mystic rudder is kinda ' out of the way' compared to the Kintec one.

      Chine Walk on the Geico I don't think I have heard of that one.
      Drammen rock City

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      • tlandauer
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2011
        • 5666

        #33
        Yeah, mine does the wiggle with the stock, not Kintec though, but... Guess I would pick chine walk over bounce, lol
        Too many boats, not enough time...

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        • Boat guy
          Member
          • May 2012
          • 37

          #34
          I will try to put one up. They are about 3/4" and shaped them like tabs on a real boat. As of now they are just bent pieces of very thin aluminum hot glued on the back. If you keep the shaft full of grease it keeps the water out. Check your rudder boot for leaks. That is where my water was coming in from. Put in tub to finally figure it out after a bunch of shaft work also. You can't have enough grease on the shaft in my opinion. I am somewhat new but hit a Aligator / turtle on one of the first runs so I became very good at fixing issues that came up after apart and then back together.
          I also took a file to the strut to give it more adjustment than the stock slot in the strut, I have read many others who did the same thing and it helps w adjusting most of the bounce out.

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          • Boat guy
            Member
            • May 2012
            • 37

            #35
            Sorry wrong post

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            • lenny
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Sep 2010
              • 4294

              #36
              Hey,
              You know the drill,
              Pictures and video's would be helpful to see whats up.
              Is the kintec offset rudder version 1 or version 2 ?
              And when taking the video watch out for that tree, Ahhhhhhhh.






              Originally posted by tlandauer
              Yeah, mine does the wiggle with the stock, not Kintec though, but... Guess I would pick chine walk over bounce, lol
              ? ONLY IF THEY WORK

              My youtube videos.http://www.youtube.com/user/61manx?feature=mhee

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              • tlandauer
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2011
                • 5666

                #37
                Originally posted by lenny
                Hey,
                You know the drill,
                Pictures and video's would be helpful to see whats up.
                Is the kintec offset rudder version 1 or version 2 ?
                And when taking the video watch out for that tree, Ahhhhhhhh.


                HI,

                Don't know which version, I think it is V2. Yeah, the tree... lol
                I took a small hydro ( DF Vortex 16 RTR that was sold here a few years ago) to a small nice pond where i am taking a vacation, tried to take some pictures this morning and almost fell in the lake. I guess I am not cut out for multi tasking. Talk about co-ordination.
                Too many boats, not enough time...

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                • CHIEFY_44
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 254

                  #38
                  The main problem with this hull be it a gieco or a mystic is the ride pads have concave ride surfaces which make the hull bounce, so blue printing the hull is a must for a smooth ride, but you also need to set the strut and cog to get the best out of this hull. But when you hit the sweet spot its awesome, as to the offset brackets kintecs works gd and is strong, the mystic one works but is very weak, I'm waiting for the new blackjack29 coming out and using It's hardware.
                  Socal Fe member, miss gieco castle 1515 1y t-180, blackjack29 stock,insane FE30 p sport castle 1515 1y t-180, insane FE30 p spec ul-1 motor t-120, insane 34"mono neu 1521 1.5d t-180

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                  • tlandauer
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 5666

                    #39
                    Originally posted by CHIEFY_44
                    The main problem with this hull be it a gieco or a mystic is the ride pads have concave ride surfaces which make the hull bounce, so blue printing the hull is a must for a smooth ride, but you also need to set the strut and cog to get the best out of this hull. But when you hit the sweet spot its awesome, as to the offset brackets kintecs works gd and is strong, the mystic one works but is very weak, I'm waiting for the new blackjack29 coming out and using It's hardware.
                    Yes Chiefy_44, I totally agree, I will be blue printing it---something I was lazy to do.
                    Thanks!
                    Too many boats, not enough time...

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                    • swanny454
                      Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 93

                      #40
                      I moved my batteries all the way to the back and they lay on the bottom, (2S packs)without the battery trays, then I put my Iphone 4 in there to check speed(right in front of the motor) and the bounce is GONE. 43mph and it sits on the back edge of the boat on the sponsons and just glides. Now I have to weigh my phone to create a "equal" style weight to replace it. At WOT on a straight away it almost wants to come out of the water, I am going to try and move the batteries forward just a little bit and see if that settles it back down

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                      • maxmekker
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 412

                        #41
                        cool. Now take that iphone out and make a video :-)

                        I got some 4400 65-130c Nano's, and let them hang over the back of battery tray, and that really helped on my geico.
                        Drammen rock City

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                        • lenny
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 4294

                          #42

                          Now adjust your strut right, To settle the boat on plane.
                          And you will not need the extra Iphone weight.


                          Originally posted by swanny454
                          I moved my batteries all the way to the back and they lay on the bottom, (2S packs)without the battery trays, then I put my Iphone 4 in there to check speed(right in front of the motor) and the bounce is GONE. 43mph and it sits on the back edge of the boat on the sponsons and just glides. Now I have to weigh my phone to create a "equal" style weight to replace it. At WOT on a straight away it almost wants to come out of the water, I am going to try and move the batteries forward just a little bit and see if that settles it back down
                          ? ONLY IF THEY WORK

                          My youtube videos.http://www.youtube.com/user/61manx?feature=mhee

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                          • ray schrauwen
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9471

                            #43
                            I ran my MG 2 weeks ago on 4S2P 4500Mah 25C -35C nano techs. Never got it totally aired out but, zero bounch with 2P weight and an offset rudder.

                            I did promise pics elsewhere but, I'll post them up for you here as soon as I take them Mike.

                            Hope you are up to speed soon Mike, then come visit me and we can talk boats and even go run some!!

                            They put a pair of huge boulders in front of that flood control pond but, I think my wheelchair can squeeze through.
                            Nortavlag Bulc

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                            • ray schrauwen
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9471

                              #44
                              Also it needs more test time because I pulled a lot of MAH out of 9000 total!!

                              I kept pushing CG back more and more but, never go it to aired out status...

                              As above, I have also blueprinted my sponsons. We can do this in th fall if you like or anytime...
                              Nortavlag Bulc

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                              • ray schrauwen
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9471

                                #45
                                Some pictures.

                                The CG needs to go way back on mine yet.
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