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  • ron1950
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    • Aug 2010
    • 3024

    #16
    hey martin i have a friend that uses 60c batteries and melted the deans plugs...everything else was cool......u useing the 5.5's or what?
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    • Brushless55
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      • Oct 2008
      • 9488

      #17
      Originally posted by jac4412
      The higher the c rating the better... 25c is probably the minimum, 30-40 is solid and 40-50c is awesome.
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      • martin
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        • Aug 2010
        • 2887

        #18
        Originally posted by ron1950
        hey martin i have a friend that uses 60c batteries and melted the deans plugs...everything else was cool......u useing the 5.5's or what?
        Im using 60c in 15"micro monos at around 50mph, I use bullet plugs but only 3.5mm as every thing is pretty small. Martin.

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        • d.a.v.e
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 222

          #19
          Wow just went to the pond and tried out my 40c's and they were way faster then the 20c's but they came back pretty warm as well. They are hard packs so its hard to tell what the actual temp was/is.

          Before I went out I ordered 2 more 2cell 5200 30c's from hobbyking. Will be interesting to see how they perform? Now I just need a new charger & power supply. My little 50w AC charger is going to take 4hrs to charge up 4 packs for the next two 5min runs!

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          • Brushless55
            Creator
            • Oct 2008
            • 9488

            #20
            Originally posted by d.a.v.e
            Wow just went to the pond and tried out my 40c's and they were way faster then the 20c's but they came back pretty warm as well. They are hard packs so its hard to tell what the actual temp was/is.

            Before I went out I ordered 2 more 2cell 5200 30c's from hobbyking. Will be interesting to see how they perform? Now I just need a new charger & power supply. My little 50w AC charger is going to take 4hrs to charge up 4 packs for the next two 5min runs!
            One thing I have noticed is if I run my packs beyond the 80% mark they do start to get warm as when I only run them to 65-75%
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            • d.a.v.e
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 222

              #21
              I'll try a 4 min run later tonight or tomorrow and see how they do? I noticed my older 20c's were not nearly as warm when I brought them in early today but have not hooked them up to the charger yet to see where they are at? Also I only ran them at about 80% throttle. Not sure which helped but they were not puffy this time... Just warm.

              Thought I would post this link I found for anyone else that might not know anything about this stuff: http://www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-lipo-batteries.html Seems to be a pretty good explanation of lipo's.

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              • don e
                Junior Member
                • May 2011
                • 1

                #22
                I believe the ESC in the MG comes program for NIMH and must be changed with the Proboat programer

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                • d.a.v.e
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 222

                  #23
                  Finally remembered to bring my GPS with me today. My boat is fully stock.

                  On my 3yr old 20c lipos I got a max speed of 29.8mph
                  On my new Venom 40c lipo's I got a max speed of 28.2

                  Other then a few speed runs I've been running the throttle at about 3/4 and the packs have been coming back much cooler lately. Will be interesting to see how my new Turnigy 4 cell 40c's do and the new 2cell 30 c's do with the same boat configuration tomorrow? Only difference being tomorrow all the batts should have EC5 connectors if I can get to it tonight?

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                  • tiqueman
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 5669

                    #24
                    Timing high or low? Also, its said its not good for the esc to run anything but full throttle. A lot of on off and half 3/4 throttle will usually help to heat things up, not cool them down. 2S packs in series, I would not go less than 40C. Even at that, Ive done some goofing around w/ mine and Ive heated up some 2S packs in it. If your looking for great speeds and handling and a good run time for 4min heat racing, Id recommend going 4S2P. I run two of the 4S Turningy, 30C 4000mah in LSO and now I use them for sport running too. It just runs better IMO. I run on the stock motor, upgraded esc and am in the low 40s. After a 4 min heat, my batts are usually under 100 degrees F. Hope this helps.
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                    • lectriglide
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                      • Nov 2009
                      • 538

                      #25
                      Originally posted by d.a.v.e
                      On my 3yr old 20c lipos I got a max speed of 29.8mph
                      On my new Venom 40c lipo's I got a max speed of 28.2
                      Think you might be running too wet. Even bone stock you should be running mid 30's. Might also explain why the previous packs were coming in hot. Keep in mind that racers actually preheat their packs to 110 or so to get the best performance out of the packs. Those 40c packs shouldn't be breaking a sweat with the stock stuff.

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                      • tiqueman
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 5669

                        #26
                        I agree w/ lectriglide. Thats why I asked High or low timing. On high, my stock set up if I remember correctly ran 32 or 33. Maybe a bit more.. I cant remember.
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                        • d.a.v.e
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 222

                          #27
                          I've got it set on high, but will try setting to low today. I'll bring a temp gun with me today but when I run full throttle I'm consistenly puffing both sets of hard case packs. Is that normal? Seems to take 30+ min for them to go back down? All the electronics are running cool but it did look like I have started to melt a deans plug? Hopefully I can get those swapped out tonight?

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                          • lectriglide
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 538

                            #28
                            Leave it on high, that's where it should be. I recall reading about someone having the same issues as you and it turned out they were not leaving enough space between the strut and drive dog. When underway the flex was constricting causing the strut and drive dog to rub. Make sure to leave about a cable width of space between the two. And no the batteries should not be puffing.

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                            • tiqueman
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 5669

                              #29
                              Great point. Check the gap. And yes, leave the timing high. I was just curious as to if the speed was down do to the "low" setting. I wouldnt think it would be starving for power so much as to melt the deans, especially if everything is stock. Id say your binding somewhere... somethings not right.

                              Can you post some pics of how your running it, set up wise?
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                              • d.a.v.e
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 222

                                #30
                                Originally posted by lectriglide
                                Leave it on high, that's where it should be. I recall reading about someone having the same issues as you and it turned out they were not leaving enough space between the strut and drive dog. When underway the flex was constricting causing the strut and drive dog to rub. Make sure to leave about a cable width of space between the two. And no the batteries should not be puffing.
                                Not sure what a drive dog is?

                                I'll post some pictures later tonight.

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