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  • tiqueman
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jul 2009
    • 5669

    #1

    About to give up

    Was posting this in the "what works for me" thread, but figured I better just start from scratch. If you were following my posts there, some of this will make a lot more sense.......

    Well, The mold for the hatch still needs all the prep work done and I wanted to run the boat TODAY. So, I mixed up a quick batch of polyester resin and began repairing. First I CA'd all I could back together, then layed up the inside with 3/4oz mat got and couple runs in, however, not w/ out some issues. First run was flawless. Boat ran exceptionally well. There were times ther was no breeze or ripples and she is running as tru and flat as can be. I brought it in and "almost" had mishap #1 (my fault). I picked the boat out of the water and carried it to the house. Set it on the bench and the prop fell off. I used stub shaft from another boat so I could get it back in the water after the cable situation. After a 445 hub, there is barely enough room for a stock, non locking nut to go on. I shouda used loc-tite, but I didnt. Fortunately it came home this time and now its "loc'd" on. So second run, boat goes 50 feet and stops and winds out like a slipped, shaft, broken shaft or could I have just thrown the prop anyway? I fished her in and found that the stub shaft seized in the strut. Greased shaft had 1, 3.5 min run on it. So, to the house I go. I was able to finesse the shaft out and saw it was looking very burnt where it rides the bushings. I worked on it a bit, sanded the shaft w/ 1000 grit, lubed and oiled it, put it all back together and it seemed it spun more free than it did new. So, I buttoned her up and off I went. Hit the throttle and the shaft spins in the coupler. I put it as tight as usual, but I guess since it slipped, thats no longer acceptable. So, tighter it went. I ran it for a couple minutes but you could hear and tell it was slipping now and again and finally slipped a bunch. So to the bench again.. heres where it gets interesting. Set scew in the coupler might as well had been installed at Firestone w/ a 150 ft/lb air wrench. I broke a craftsman wrench trying to undo it, then shortly there after stripped the set screw... SERIOUSLY???? So I began to drill it out..... Bits kinda dull, Ive got a new one in the garage, bit cathes hard while drilling, coulper (which is still installed in boat on motor that I am hold ing in my left hand) rolls towards my finger and I put a brand new 1/8 drill bit in one side of my finger at the first bend, finger print side, and out the other, just in front of my nail. Thats about a 1" travel thru meat. Then the bit stuck out about 3/16 out of my finger. I didnt realize it went thru until I tried to pull my finger back and look at it and the drill, still in my right hand, came with it. Theres blood all over my boat, my bench, my carpet now in my hobby room and down the hall, across the living room and into the kitchen. ER visit cost more than the damn boat did, my trigger finger is now wrapped, splinted, and hurts like hell and worst of all, my boat is STILL broken. Im beginning to hate my MG. Not really.. just the experiences its causing. PB hit the nail on the head w/ the design of the hull and most of the hardware... but thats about it. Quality of mine put together was far from what my BJ26 was. I re-epoxied most of the things in the hull. A battery tray was almost out before I even put the first battery in it. The lid as we all know is horrible, the flex is junk, and seriously, who puts a coupler on a motor so it wont come off? And will break a wrench trying... Shes great when she runs, but Im thinking I shouda just bought another Genesis.. same amount of work.

    EDIT: and, its a pita typing w/ out your left index finger.....
    Last edited by tiqueman; 11-22-2010, 02:21 AM.
    Geico epoxy laminate hatch sale thread Black Jack epoxy laminate hatch sale thread
    HPR06 6S Twin HOTR Genesis (SOLD) Vantex 32" cat Geico racing
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  • GP73
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 544

    #2
    I'm so sorry to hear...

    Get well soon!

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    • tiqueman
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jul 2009
      • 5669

      #3
      Thanks man. Ish happens! Just hurts sometimes.
      Geico epoxy laminate hatch sale thread Black Jack epoxy laminate hatch sale thread
      HPR06 6S Twin HOTR Genesis (SOLD) Vantex 32" cat Geico racing
      WEST FL MODEL BOAT CLUB www.scottskiracing.com

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      • ron1950
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Aug 2010
        • 3024

        #4
        scott .....darn man u pulled a ron there dude.....sorry to hear it.....been there and done that but usually with a scribe or a xeacto knife....i even cut my thumb on a sharpened prop the other day putting the boat in the truck lol....my advise is dont get old ...it happens more as u get old and feble like me ......walk it off!!!!!...
        MY RETIREMENT PLAN?????.....POWERBALL
        74 vintage kirby clasic hydro, pursuit mono, mg, 47'' mono, popeye hydro...

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        • Boomer
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 285

          #5
          Ouch! Yikes, that hurt me just reading about it!

          Dude! What can I say? Bad day for sure! Here is a tip for you, on any Proboat couplings, you need to heat up the coupling with the tip of your soldering iron before trying to remove the set screws. They use some form of loctite on the set screws that is more like welding things together. They also use lower quality steel in their set screws, instead of SS, so they will rust!

          When I got my first Proboat, I had to cut into the coupling the get the darn thing off. I called Proboat to ask them "what the are they thinking. They suggested heating the couplings first , which should be published some where in there literature. It works for me, so now I just heat them up before trying to remove the set screws.

          Kintec Racing and I would image, OSE sell higher quality bushings for Miss Gs.
          Go to Kintec Racing under Miss Geico upgrades and look for "Removable Replacement Bushing -you might want to change it out for one that can be greased."

          Sorry I bring you this information a bit late.



          Hope your finger heals quickly and the pain goes away soon.
          Boomer

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          • blackcat26
            High Speed Junkie
            • Sep 2009
            • 1598

            #6
            Damn Tique sounds like you have my luck bro. You need to heal up and make some MG hatches. Even mine cracked in the corners when I blew it over this weekend.
            FE BOATING: Less like a hobby and more like an addiction!

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            • dana
              Banned
              • Mar 2010
              • 3573

              #7
              I'm all set with PB rubbish...

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              • Boomer
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 285

                #8
                Replacement hatch update

                I spoke with Rich today regarding the status of his replace hatch. He almost ready to go, but is working on a few custom features he will be offering to enhance the appearance of our boats.

                He feels he is going be able to match the color but advised that not all Geicos are the same color. He has two at his shop and there is a slight difference in the two boats color. Albeit slight, it is logical that boat color will vary from batch to batch.

                From what he is telling me, his replacement hatches will be very cool. He will let me know more after Thanksgiving.

                Boomer

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                • tiqueman
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 5669

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Boomer
                  Dude! What can I say? Bad day for sure! Here is a tip for you, on any Proboat couplings, you need to heat up the coupling with the tip of your soldering iron before trying to remove the set screws. They use some form of loctite on the set screws that is more like welding things together. They also use lower quality steel in their set screws, instead of SS, so they will rust!

                  When I got my first Proboat, I had to cut into the coupling the get the darn thing off. I called Proboat to ask them "what the are they thinking. They suggested heating the couplings first , which should be published some where in there literature. It works for me, so now I just heat them up before trying to remove the set screws.

                  Kintec Racing and I would image, OSE sell higher quality bushings for Miss Gs.
                  Go to Kintec Racing under Miss Geico upgrades and look for "Removable Replacement Bushing -you might want to change it out for one that can be greased."

                  Sorry I bring you this information a bit late.



                  Hope your finger heals quickly and the pain goes away soon.
                  Boomer

                  Thanks Boom. I was actually at the LHS last week and picked up a few packages of Aeromarine teflon bushings. I always like to have a few on hand. I used a set in the PB strut. My OSE order arrived today so I was able to make a new shaft so I could put the currently used stub back in the boat I stole it from after my PB stocker was about in two after 5 runs. I ended up using a cut off wheel on the dremel tonight and went at the set screw to get the coulper off. While at it I also removed the motor mount and used a round file to extend the motor bolt holes upwards so the motor would actually line up w/ the shaft. It was about 1/32 too low. Had I known, I would have ordered a couple 5mm to .150 couplers just to have on stock and replace some of my "china" ones, but I didnt even think about it. Guess I will have to rob a boat again until I can get some.



                  Originally posted by blackcat26
                  Damn Tique sounds like you have my luck bro. You need to heal up and make some MG hatches. Even mine cracked in the corners when I blew it over this weekend.
                  They will be ready next week.
                  Geico epoxy laminate hatch sale thread Black Jack epoxy laminate hatch sale thread
                  HPR06 6S Twin HOTR Genesis (SOLD) Vantex 32" cat Geico racing
                  WEST FL MODEL BOAT CLUB www.scottskiracing.com

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                  • tiqueman
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 5669

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Boomer
                    I spoke with Rich today regarding the status of his replace hatch. He almost ready to go, but is working on a few custom features he will be offering to enhance the appearance of our boats.

                    He feels he is going be able to match the color but advised that not all Geicos are the same color. He has two at his shop and there is a slight difference in the two boats color. Albeit slight, it is logical that boat color will vary from batch to batch.

                    From what he is telling me, his replacement hatches will be very cool. He will let me know more after Thanksgiving.

                    Boomer
                    Boomer Boomer Boomer.. how you gunna plug someones elses hatches on my thread when im making them? Your price just went up
                    Geico epoxy laminate hatch sale thread Black Jack epoxy laminate hatch sale thread
                    HPR06 6S Twin HOTR Genesis (SOLD) Vantex 32" cat Geico racing
                    WEST FL MODEL BOAT CLUB www.scottskiracing.com

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                    • johnf
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 1078

                      #11
                      Scott, I thought you had posted you weren't gonna make them due to issues with the color match. Sucks about all the badluck!

                      Btw, I noticed in black cats thread you posted about working on one of your twins. You been fooling with one of the hprs?
                      Catching Air!

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                      • Boomer
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 285

                        #12
                        ops

                        tiqueman
                        I am sorry! I didn't realize you guys were competing with each other. I have no stake in this other than reporting any updates that come to me. Not promoting just reporting the news.

                        Boomer

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                        • tiqueman
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5669

                          #13
                          Originally posted by johnf
                          Scott, I thought you had posted you weren't gonna make them due to issues with the color match. Sucks about all the badluck!

                          Btw, I noticed in black cats thread you posted about working on one of your twins. You been fooling with one of the hprs?
                          Nah Im still making them, just not as quickly as I originally planned b/c of color issues. Plus it sounded as if Richs were going to be out like a week ago. So I stalled to see what he was doing so we dont offer the same thing. I put the whole thing on the back burner until I broke mine. Now its moving its way forward.

                          HPR.. and got my HOTR back in the water yesterday... dam that boat is cool!
                          Geico epoxy laminate hatch sale thread Black Jack epoxy laminate hatch sale thread
                          HPR06 6S Twin HOTR Genesis (SOLD) Vantex 32" cat Geico racing
                          WEST FL MODEL BOAT CLUB www.scottskiracing.com

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                          • tiqueman
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 5669

                            #14
                            LOL no sweat at all Boom, just pokn your ribs man! Im anxtious to see his. Ive made some subtle changes to mine and just wanna see what he came up with. I talked to him last week. Hes makin some different scoop options which is way cool. I removed the side scoops off mine for one of the molds so hopefully his "cooler" looking scoops could be installed. Im not looking at this one really as competition, but different options from different enthusiasts. I heard he makes a good product. I cant wait to see them.
                            Geico epoxy laminate hatch sale thread Black Jack epoxy laminate hatch sale thread
                            HPR06 6S Twin HOTR Genesis (SOLD) Vantex 32" cat Geico racing
                            WEST FL MODEL BOAT CLUB www.scottskiracing.com

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                            • johnf
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1078

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tiqueman
                              Nah Im still making them, just not as quickly as I originally planned b/c of color issues. Plus it sounded as if Richs were going to be out like a week ago. So I stalled to see what he was doing so we dont offer the same thing. I put the whole thing on the back burner until I broke mine. Now its moving its way forward.

                              HPR.. and got my HOTR back in the water yesterday... dam that boat is cool!
                              Sweet! Which hpr? You need to add more pics of them to your albums! Did I tell ya my 115 and hw made it in? I'm pumped.
                              Catching Air!

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