BL Mini-C w/2700KV ammo 11.1V Lipo

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  • Meniscus
    Refuse the box exists!
    • Jul 2008
    • 3225

    #16
    That must make rescue fairly easy!
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    • jfabcustom
      Speed addict!
      • Jul 2008
      • 98

      #17
      That's the primary reason it has become my test pond. No rescue boat required!
      Sixty percent of the time, It works, Everytime!

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      • jfabcustom
        Speed addict!
        • Jul 2008
        • 98

        #18
        Originally posted by Meniscus
        We're looking forward to seeing how she runs.
        Who's we?
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        • jfabcustom
          Speed addict!
          • Jul 2008
          • 98

          #19
          Ok here's the video. The new setup seemed to work well! I think with a little tuning it will run even better. There is a little play in the steering pushrod and I think eliminating the play will also help. Big thanks to my Dad for everything he's tought me on his mill. He's the man when it comes to making brackets. Thanks Dad!


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          by the way Meniscus, this was not the shallow pond where I normally run, as it was full of moss.
          Last edited by jfabcustom; 02-24-2009, 02:04 AM.
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          • jfabcustom
            Speed addict!
            • Jul 2008
            • 98

            #20
            Anyone have any Ideas on why she's hopping out of the water? I've tried several tuning adjustments: strut height, strut angle, C/G. Nothing seems to help. This thing just want's to shoot right out of the water. I'm thinking that, due to the size of the boat, the tunnel may be too shallow, and when it airs out, the boat takes flight.

            Here's the funny part. There is a video on you tube called Ballistic Proboat Mini C. This boat still has the steerable drive on it and it seems rock solid at almost top speed? crazy! I feel like giving up. It may be time for a new build. A larger size hull that's meant for some speed. This little boat certainly got me hooked though.
            Last edited by jfabcustom; 03-01-2009, 10:37 PM.
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            • thegreat1
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 249

              #21
              if you are done with it you should sell it arr i would buy it if the price was right. let me know.

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              • jfabcustom
                Speed addict!
                • Jul 2008
                • 98

                #22
                It's not worth selling. I'd never get my money back. I sorta lost my ass on this one. But it wasn't a waste. I've learned a lot from building this little thing, mainly not to go overboard with a hull that will not perform how you want it to. I may try running the stock out drive like this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEMWA1U6IEQ Though everything I've read states how unstable the steerable out drive is, this is the most stable Mini C I've seen.
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                • jfabcustom
                  Speed addict!
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 98

                  #23
                  I'll try again. Anyone have any ideas on why this thing is porpoising? Here's a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXPCxrI_d4I any input is appreciated! Thanks!
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                  • jfabcustom
                    Speed addict!
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 98

                    #24
                    Either no one is interested in the Mini C anymore, or I'm just gettin' no love from you guys. Am I doing something wrong? What's the deal, how can I get some help? I see the views going up on my thread but I get no responses, No help.

                    Anyway, I'm going to try lifting the strut. I'll need to change the angle of the stuffing tube so that it exits the transom a little higher. This will allow me to raise the strut without binding the flex cable.

                    Anyone, anyone, Bueller, Bueller, Bueller????
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                    • Meniscus
                      Refuse the box exists!
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3225

                      #25
                      It looks like too much air in the tunnel section. Try changing the angle of the strut so that the prop is slightly lower than the front of the strut. This will push the nose down while running.

                      IMPBA: 7-Time FE World Record Holder "Don't think outside the box. Rather, refuse to admit that the box exists in the first place!"

                      MGM Controllers - Giant Power Lipos - ML Boatworks - Wholt's Wire Drives & Struts - Nano-Oil

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                      • jfabcustom
                        Speed addict!
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 98

                        #26
                        Thanks for the response! I believe my main problem is limited strut adjustability. I can only adjust so far in any direction before the flex shaft binds. This is because of how close the strut is in relation to the stuffing tube. If I lift the exit location I will be able to lift the strut up without binding the flex cable.

                        From my research I 've found that most people like to set the bottom of their strut housing even with the bottom of the boat and then adjust up from there. IE - Boat sitting flat on the table -- strut sitting flat on the table. Mine seems to be alot lower than this ''standard''. So I will try to achieve this first by moving the stuffing tube up, and from there I'll make small angle and hieght adjustments to the strut to get her dialed in.

                        Man, it sure helps to get input from people with experience, but one sure does learn alot when forced to dig for the answer. I just get side tracked so easily when searching through the forums.

                        Thanks again, James
                        Sixty percent of the time, It works, Everytime!

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                        • Jesse J
                          scale FE racer
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 7116

                          #27
                          Great looking mods! I am working on a scratch build modeled after this, so I have been following to see what I can learn. I like the sound of these last two responses. I think Meniscus hit it and you identified the limitation. How about this: extend the length of exposed stuffing tube.

                          My thread (scratch build micro cat), I will be updating soon shows probably 3" of exposed stuffing tube; I think you could use more exposure... My recommendations:

                          1) trim off the plastic housing that accompanies the stuffing tube to the exit point at the transom so that there is an oval hole in the tunnel.

                          2) fill this hole with JB or Epoxy.

                          3) now you have potentially inches more stuffing tube that you can bend up or down with the strut adjustments that are being recommended.
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                          • jfabcustom
                            Speed addict!
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 98

                            #28
                            Moving my stuffing tube freed up all kinds of adjustment. but no matter where I placed the strut the boat would still jump out of the water. I even tried some extreme downward angles but no luck (though I got better launches with these angles).

                            Oh well, I was hoping I could get her dialed. I think since this hull is so small and weak and cheap and warped and ETC. It's just not worth tying to make it go fast.

                            not sure what's next? I like cats, always have.
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                            • Meniscus
                              Refuse the box exists!
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 3225

                              #29
                              Try moving the CG forward. Always remember that it may not just be a strut issue if you can't resolve that way. Sure, it will run a little wetter, but it will be more stable.
                              IMPBA: 7-Time FE World Record Holder "Don't think outside the box. Rather, refuse to admit that the box exists in the first place!"

                              MGM Controllers - Giant Power Lipos - ML Boatworks - Wholt's Wire Drives & Struts - Nano-Oil

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                              • Meniscus
                                Refuse the box exists!
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 3225

                                #30
                                After looking back at your pictures, your last option would be to skeletonize your custom bracket for the rudder. If you don't like the looks of straight holes, try going with triangle shapes. This will help reduce the amount of weight you have in the back with the removal of excess material.

                                Finally, you could try putting some weights in the front, just to see how she responds to the CG difference.

                                Hope this helps
                                IMPBA: 7-Time FE World Record Holder "Don't think outside the box. Rather, refuse to admit that the box exists in the first place!"

                                MGM Controllers - Giant Power Lipos - ML Boatworks - Wholt's Wire Drives & Struts - Nano-Oil

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