Extreme modified Black Jack 26 EP ...

[Diegoboy]

Without neither belief nor doubt in Hex-dj and his claims, I want to get in on some of this. We've all seen his setup. Now take a look at mine. I'd like to ask what speeds should my setup be running at, based on the claims of Hex-dj.
Anybody...?







That's a Feigao 8XL on a CC Cuda 125.
HW is custom by Lonewolf.
Prop is stock (pictured) Also ran X642, X645 & M435/3
12 cell 3000Mah power (NiMh)

If Hex can run 64MPH on the Ammo, What should this 8XL put me at?

[RCprince]

Diego...I would say about 50 mph.....this is what 64 looks like, hardware is a Neu 1521 1.5(1860 kv), a Jeti spin 200, dual 5000 thunderpower 6s2p spinning a grim 45x68

[Jeff Wohlt]

The 8XL is 2084 KV and the ammo is 2300 KV. He is turning approx 4,000 more rpm than and 8XL with 14.4 v.

I'm with UB.... if you think you know better then why respond. Certainly has been a fun thread.

[Diegoboy]

You're correct Jeff. @ 14.4V, she was starved for power. She was begging for more voltage, and I don't have any more to give her. I have all these boats, and no batteries.

[Chop]

Come on guys, the mockery has gone far enough... let the kid "tickle"... don't shunt him down.
He may be under the impression that his boat is really going that fast... or maybe it is that fast. The point is, it doesn't matter,
if you think he's blowing smoke, just don't read the thread.
This is really not going anywhere...
Thank you.

Ub Hauled, you are right, but this guy has to back up his pompous claims, that's what is irratating people here (along with his LOL's and stupid replys).

I too, am getting the humor in this. HOWEVER, if you (hex-dj) are feeling “picked on” you deserve it. As far as I know you are either a newbie (like me - but I'm not the one making these arrogant statements) or someone that has 50 years experience with RC boats (probably not, because you would know better).

Why do I feel this way? In the SV thread, in the discussion about scuffed hull bottoms I (respectfully) said:

My opinion…

Are you familiar with “window clings?” These are the paper thick, translucent, plastic decorations that are put on windows for holidays, birthdays etc. You get them slightly wet and place them on the window and they stick to the glass.

I believe that a smooth bottom makes the hull adhere to the water in the same fashion that a window cling sticks to the glass. Also, if you have ever tried to attach a suction cup to a rough surface you know that it does not stick well, if at all. Hence the reason for roughing up the bottom of a boat.

You responded with…

Add water to any papper and it will stick to anywhere rough or smooth surface.

&

Also about suction cups,they stick better if you add water because water serves as glue to anything you add it to.

Just to clarify, because it seems that you missed some very important points...
#1 I was not talking about paper, I was comparing the thickness of the plastic (as in PAPER thin). Plastic is more rigid and it needs the water to fill in the gaps on the surface.
#2 The water on a suction cup acts as a seal, to prevent the air from getting under the cup, and it won't even do that if the surface is rough enough. It is in no way shape or form, acting as glue. In fact, water is known as the universal solvent. Pure water will dissolve or break down nearly anything.

Also, the charts on the OSE site (Speed Estimate by Use of Voltage & Constant "Kv") the calculations do not take into account proper trimming of the boat, i.e. scuffing, rudder angle, prop angle, running wet, etc. Note that the title is a Speed ESTIMATE.

Now quit blowing smoke up our a$$es and show us some credible video. Put up or shut up.

[eric-paul]

Now quit blowing smoke up our a$$es and show us some credible video. Put up or shut up.

Well said!

[Jeff Wohlt]

I agree with Chop. This is more for fun than fact...I think he would make a good bench racer.

Chops facts on the bottom are exactly correct.

So bring out the video or admit you might be seeing high 30s and maybe 40mph :)

You would also have to be a darn good driver to keep that hull on the water at WFO more than a couple seconds at anything close to 50 mph.

When I started I thought I was goiong fast as well....until I GPSd it and said...no way...I was going twice that fast !! My 30 mph sure seemd like 50+ back then....now I know what 50-60+ looks like. Even vidoe does not give a good indication.

[Ub Hauled]

Guys, I know the comments he is making are quite "super"... all I am saying is, he's getting the best of you all... maybe even laughing at it. We don't need another sheisty (spell?) thread... maybe if one really feels that proof is necessary, just say; "put up the video or no more comments!". Let him be talking to the letters on the thread.
Jeff, well said, until one GPSd or "trapped" the boat, all the guesses are just guesses.

[hex-dj]

Nice setup Diegoboy.

[Diegoboy]

Thank you Hex!

[domwilson]

Hex, these guys are just having fun with you. This is a really good forum with alot of nice, knowledgeable people. I feel that you were just trying to get some suggestions on how to improve your setup. I also noticed that you took alot of advice and put it to good use. Your means of harvesting information may seem a little quirky, but the end results are a positive. That being said, keep on modding your boats. Some here will enjoy the entertainment and at the same time learn a little something.

[chirotray]

Ok Hex, let me respond to a couple of things, then ill make an official statement. 1. you told me to get more experience.....ok, well im sitting on 17 years of rc. For the last five years ive worked for hobby shops, currently i work part time for one of the largest private hobby shops in the world. 2. to answer your question on "chiro" , it comes from a greek word meaning basically to use your hands. I use it in my name because I am a chiropractic intern. 3. you keep mentioning my imaginary boat, if you will read through the thread, i never one time mentioned my boat until you asked about it, and then i made no claims whatsoever about it, and up front said that it was bone stock with lipos and a scuffed hull, yet you still demand pics. I tried to upload, but was unable to, so this weekend my friend is going to meet me with his supervee, and we will race and video tape it and put it on youtube for you.
Finally what I want to say to you is that there are a lot of really knowledgable people on here, I bet that if you add it up there are several hundred years of combined experience, and you make big claims, dont back it up, then argue with them on suggestions. That is the source of you being picked on. I will stop picking on you because honestly im starting to feel a little bad about it, thats not how I usually am. But I will say that I am going to post a video just because you asked me to. So now Im asking you to do the same thing before you make any more claims to big speeds.

[Jeepers]

Without neither belief nor doubt in Hex-dj and his claims, I want to get in on some of this. We've all seen his setup. Now take a look at mine. I'd like to ask what speeds should my setup be running at, based on the claims of Hex-dj.
Anybody...?







That's a Feigao 8XL on a CC Cuda 125.
HW is custom by Lonewolf.
Prop is stock (pictured) Also ran X642, X645 & M435/3
12 cell 3000Mah power (NiMh)

If Hex can run 64MPH on the Ammo, What should this 8XL put me at?

hey diegoboy just wonderin if its gonna be as fast as dirtysouth Miss Vegas, remember that video? man that video cracked me up!

[Ub Hauled]

For all of you "Black Jackers", maybe this will be of interest:

http://www.aeromarinerc.com/runninggear.asp

scroll down to the middle of the page... there is an upgrade kit for the BJ 26.


ps: Sorry Steven V. if this is of conflict.

[Mich. Maniac]

awesome, thanks. I added that to favorites. I like fullers stuff but this looks a little more specific to the blackjack in mounting aspect.