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  • 6S HYDRO
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Mar 2009
    • 1320

    #1

    blackjack still rolls in the turns

    cant figure it out, fullers inline hardware turn fins removed, batteries placed @ 1.5 and 1.75" R side. strut placed @ flat w/ sponsons. should i move the strut up to help it in the turns or down possibly. ive heard they should cross wakes at speed with this setup.
  • Christaphason
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 104

    #2
    My boat had the same problem, even after tweaking it the best i could. what worked for me was cutting the turn fins down 1/2'' and then angling them to the same angle as the edge of the sponsons.

    With my turn fins like this i can make full speed turns, and im running a feigao 8xl on 4s lipo.

    Iv'e heard of some hulls being different and handeling good with out them, but this is just my experience. Maybe someone else can chime in with other tweaks.

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    • Boatman
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 796

      #3
      Fill the last set of steps. I swear it works. Alot of work yes but it will solve the problem. Buddy had one and could not run even with SV's because it would either roll in the corners or just go nuts in wake's. He filled in the last set of steps and he was full throttle for 5 laps straight and we could no longer touch his speed and handling. Dont ask why cause only someone like Jay Turner could tell ya but man did it turn it into a whole nother boat.

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      • 6S HYDRO
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Mar 2009
        • 1320

        #4
        Im gonna sheath the flat part of the rear step with something removable to test this b4 i commit, but thanks sir. Also i noticed my inline rudder has hit something and bent backward a little- this when turning is angling and possibly creating lift and promoting roll

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        • pbleckert972
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 119

          #5
          i had a bj26 with fullers... angled and trimed the turn fins, thing stuck like velcro in the corners. but i also removed the battery trays and radio box to change cog.

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          • 6S HYDRO
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Mar 2009
            • 1320

            #6
            What was your cg?

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            • Boatman
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 796

              #7
              My bud was running Fullers hardware as well. With and without turn fins. Angled them in, removed batt. trays, radio box. Nothing worked until he filled in the step. The hardware was a mojor improvement and made it ok alone but with other boats even small ones it would get bad roll across wakes and was worse in corners. Yes maybe try even jamming some playdoh or something in there that you can smooth out and somehow get to stick just for a few laps. I dont think he saw a jump in speed from doing that but was able to work from a even constant platform and by the end he was turning 46-47mph laps flat out.

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              • 6S HYDRO
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Mar 2009
                • 1320

                #8
                it works boatman, i layered two ply's of thin abs and two ply's of 3m vhb doulble side tape. simple fix - tokk 5 min. thing is an animal now and jumps right over wakes nice and straight

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                • LiPo Power
                  DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
                  • May 2009
                  • 3186

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 6S HYDRO
                  it works boatman, i layered two ply's of thin abs and two ply's of 3m vhb doulble side tape. simple fix - tokk 5 min. thing is an animal now and jumps right over wakes nice and straight
                  I would love to see some pictures of your interesting mod. Any chance you can post it please?
                  Thanks
                  Robert
                  DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
                  Canada

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                  • 6S HYDRO
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1320

                    #10
                    Sure robert, i will try to get some piks up this afternoon. It is simple cut out 4 1" thick pieces of abs plastic (i used a for sale sign) and some super strong thick double sided tape. Stick on one piece of tape then the abs on top then another piece of tape and another piece of abs. Repeat on other sponson. Depending on the thickness of your materials it should only take two ply's. Also i only did it on the flat part of the last step- thats what made it so easy to do.

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                    • 785boats
                      Wet Track Racing
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 3169

                      #11
                      Have a read of this & see what you think for a permanent fix.
                      This mod has been applied to many a Blackjack, I think.

                      http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/inf...fters-turn.php

                      Cheers.
                      Paul.
                      See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
                      http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...hp?albumid=319
                      http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...hp?albumid=320

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                      • 6S HYDRO
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1320

                        #12
                        exactly what i did, exept for the after ride pad

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                        • Boogie
                          Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 37

                          #13
                          Hmm, I'm going to have to try that. I thought you had to fill in the last step all the way across the sponson, I'll try it this way though tonight maybe. Does that mod eliminate the need for turn fins with the stock setup or just with an aftermarket setup like the fullers?

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                          • Boatman
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 796

                            #14
                            Glad to hear its working for ya. I had never seen those pics before but it is exactly what he did. Just maybe he didn't do it quite so perty:) I don't think he filled in the side steps as really the ride pad is just that so it didn't matter.

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                            • 6S HYDRO
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 1320

                              #15
                              i dont know about the stock setup, but with the fullers no fins

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