Veles Fast List!!!

[vinnyp]

Nice run on 4s. Looks like the weather was good for you today. May not last much longer.

[MADRCER]

Weather was good just hard to find extra play time. If it works for my schedule tomorrow Ole yeller and the veles both might get some play time. If not the next time the Veles gets in the water it will have the good 3s batteries in it along with an ABC 1716 s&b NON Dasboata prop that a member is sending me and wanting to compare it against the best in the business prop work. Stay tuned.....

[vinnyp]

NON[/B] Dasboata prop that a member is sending me and wanting to compare it against the best in the business prop work. Stay tuned.....

For anyone who is interested, that member is me. While I have not been in the game of fast electrics for more than 8 months, I feel in that short time, my prop prep work has improved significantly. Not claiming to be the best by any means. Just want to see how fast my prop would run with someone who has more experience with setting up one of these boats than me. Bottom line..... I have the same boats as does Mark. In fact my Zelos is supposed to have more power than his. Still, I have not been able to come anywhere near the speed he runs. Is it my props or my set up? Maybe this little test will tell the tale.

[MADRCER]

My Veles with vinnyp's 1716 prop test 1

Vinny, With all fairness it was windy and I soaked a poor handicapped boy in his wheelchair trying to run in a strong sidewind, he was a good sport though and I let him drive my tug boat around to make up for getting him wet... but test #1 of Vinnyp's ABC 1716 prop that he s&b himself. The wind was strong blowing into my face which was pushing the boat very close to the dock and I may have left a few mph on the table. I will have a follow up test in the coming days to verify if this is all his prop has in it.

[dasboata]

Wow Mark 10 MPH difference Oh well Vinny back to the grind stone,, In all fairness 10 MPH is a big difference could be a mislabeled prop some where ???

[vinnyp]

Thanks for testing it out. Was hoping for better numbers, but it is what it is. As you said, maybe a few mph left with better conditions. You have to admit the prop looks good. Maybe better than it performed. You are a brave man to touch that prop with the lipos plugged in. If I did that, the radio would blow over, land on the throttle trigger and the prop would cut my fingers off.

[MADRCER]

VP did you send me to a gun fight with a knife...LOL!

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[vinnyp]

VP did you send me to a gun fight with a knife...

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No not intentionally. The pictures sure make my prop look like a 1715. Need a pitch gauge to be certain. I was going to invest in one, but don't have it yet. Wonder if it was mismarked at ABC??? Has this been noted before? That prop came from Bonzi. At the time OSE didn't have any stock.
That 1716 on the right certainly appears to have more blade than the one in the middle. Maybe if time allows, a test would be to run your 1715 and my 1716 back to back. Blackcloud strikes again.

[vinnyp]

Fair enough for me. Thanks for taking the time to test.

[vinnyp]

Mark,
I had a thought. When you first looked at my prop, you said it felt sharper than yours. Then you weighed it to compare to your 1716. Mine weighed 1 1/2 grams lighter than yours, a considerable amount. I have seen variations in the weight of these props when they arrive from ABC, but not to that extreme. In the case of my zelos, I make every effort to get the weight of the 2 props as even as possible. In this case, I had no other 1716 to compare to. I know how much I take off each blade as I work with a scale. It shouldn't be that much. When you have the time, I would like you to weigh my prop to compare to your 1715, that may give us some more information.

[vinnyp]

That was a nice looking run, right up to the point where it took flight for what maybe 75 feet or so. It had to have hit a partially submerged branch or debris of some kind. Are there any turtles in that pond? There are 2 nice fresh water ponds right near my house that I don't run in because they are loaded with turtles. If it was a turtle, that turtle just had a real bad day. No worries about if the prop gets damaged. That's part of the game. Remember when I told you I wrecked a pair of 1817's on my zelos 2 weeks ago in very similar manor. Only I wasnt up to speed when I hit something. Your Veles seemed to be humming right along when it hit. If nothing else, it made for a real cool video. Thanks for testing it out.
Getting to the prep work I did. I know I took .5 grams from each blade. Then a small amount to get the balance right. I cant see how it got so much lighter and thinner than yours, but the scale doesn't lie. Is the jury still out on whether this prop is a 1715 or a 1716? I know I am confused about it. I don't have the knowledge of how to harden props yet. Its a skill I hope to learn soon. I don't think the hardening process that was done to your props would make the prop any heavier but not certain.

[MADRCER]

Very seldom do I see a turtle in this water. As for the prop I think it is a 1716 but I think you have manipulated it just enough that's it is hard for me to tell. I for sure thought it was until I put it right beside mine. It is stamped as a 1716 and it's probably very rare for it to be stamped wrong so I would say it is and 5 mph or so has been my findings from a Pro prepped prop and a non Pro prepped. Obviously the gap is closer on a Pro prepped vs. Pro prepped, but I like to put my mind at ease, so I let one "Pro" handle mine and he always comes through for me.

[vinnyp]

I can live with that.

[vinnyp]

Excellent comparison, conditions look very similar. Except without the unexpected flight at the end. I saw your post on YouTube. Sounds possible that the breakaway bolt just failed. You would think if it hit something, there would be some damage on either the rudder or prop.
I learned a few things from this. I may not lean on " the grind stone" so much on my next prop. No hurry in sending it back to me. I think I am done for the winter.

[vinnyp]

Ok you talked me into it. Just remember, I am on Long Island New York with the ocean on one side and the Long Island Sound on the other. Its gets cold here. On the other hand, I do believe there is a 70 in that prop with ideal conditions. If I can, I will try to run again. Soon that bay I run in may freeze up. Salt water or not, it does freeze. In the mornings, there has already been skim ice covering the canal at work. But there is a good amount of fresh water run off there from the streets. No run off at the bay I run.