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  • REDLINE1
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 199

    #1

    zelos 36 problem

    Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this. Looks like my stuffing was installed incorrectly. The curve in the brass tube is supposed to curve up from the strut to the motor. Mine is twisted slightly and curves inward toward the rudder. I get some vibration on that side and more resistance as the cable or wire As it's fighting the strut which is straight. I've had the boat for almost a year and never noticed it
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  • CraigP
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • May 2017
    • 1464

    #2
    Well, I would get that stuffing tube out and put a new one in. Big job, but it needs to be right!

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    • dasboata
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Dec 2010
      • 3152

      #3
      zelos 36 problem

      What I did is slowly scraped away at the bondo holding it in , with a solder iron , and a heated curved chisel.. I made ,,I then lined it up & re bonded it the whole stinger stuffing box is a poor design without having some flex back there for adjustments


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      • CraigP
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • May 2017
        • 1464

        #4
        Yeah, isn't that where the up/down pivot point is? Your right dashbota, something is off there... May have to check the other side. My deep V has an O-ring at the back of the stinger tube to the back of the transom. It's flex at that point in my boat.

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        • REDLINE1
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2016
          • 199

          #5
          I was thinking cut out as much of the brass tube on the inside as I can then cut the brass tube flush with the pad where the strut mounts. Then get a drill the same size (or slightly larger) than the OD of the brass tube and try and drill the tube out where it passes through the transom. The tube is so thin I'm worried the drill will grab the brass and tear everything up. Don't know how if I could get a replacement tube from proboat or if I'd have to make a new one

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          • CraigP
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • May 2017
            • 1464

            #6
            It's just standard brass tubing, I wouldn't be shy about that... but what we are saying is the pic looks like you have straight prop shaft where that should be a flex point, unless I'm missing something.

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            • dasboata
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Dec 2010
              • 3152

              #7
              Originally posted by REDLINE1
              I was thinking cut out as much of the brass tube on the inside as I can then cut the brass tube flush with the pad where the strut mounts. Then get a drill the same size (or slightly larger) than the OD of the brass tube and try and drill the tube out where it passes through the transom. The tube is so thin I'm worried the drill will grab the brass and tear everything up. Don't know how if I could get a replacement tube from proboat or if I'd have to make a new one
              I had changed the stuffing boxes to 1/4" no liner (thanks Doug ) the Teflon is a bit heavy(thick) and it does do develop some heat !

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              • dasboata
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Dec 2010
                • 3152

                #8
                Originally posted by CraigP
                It's just standard brass tubing, I wouldn't be shy about that... but what we are saying is the pic looks like you have straight prop shaft where that should be a flex point, unless I'm missing something.
                he has the stinger drive off to show us its not straight

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                • CraigP
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • May 2017
                  • 1464

                  #9
                  It's different than my setup. Not much help here, sorry! Pics of the tube inside the boat and a pic of your stinger could help on the visual.

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                  • REDLINE1
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 199

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dasboata
                    he has the stinger drive off to show us its not straight
                    Yes stinger off cable pushed in further to show that it is crooked

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                    • REDLINE1
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 199

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dasboata
                      I had changed the stuffing boxes to 1/4" no liner (thanks Doug ) the Teflon is a bit heavy(thick) and it does do develop some heat !
                      Been running wire drives so I think the larger stock stuffing tube might be better because the wire will have a more gradual bend up to the motor?

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                      • REDLINE1
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 199

                        #12
                        Thanks for the replys guys

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                        • Rafael_Lopez
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 470

                          #13
                          If you notice, the stuffing tube does not go all the way in to the strut and the solid shaft site further out of the tube. There is some play in the strut that allows you to rotate the strut either towards the rudder or away from it. Its no different than adding positive or negative angle to the strut. If your cable is not showing signs of friction at that spot, don't worry bout it; it wont negatively affect anything. I wish I could say that all the boats are perfect but they are mass produced and things happen, but I would not go through the trouble of breaking the stuffing tube loose to spin it a couple degrees, especially if it is only causing aesthetic issues on a part that you can only see when the strut is removed.
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                          • REDLINE1
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 199

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez
                            If you notice, the stuffing tube does not go all the way in to the strut and the solid shaft site further out of the tube. There is some play in the strut that allows you to rotate the strut either towards the rudder or away from it. Its no different than adding positive or negative angle to the strut. If your cable is not showing signs of friction at that spot, don't worry bout it; it wont negatively affect anything. I wish I could say that all the boats are perfect but they are mass produced and things happen, but I would not go through the trouble of breaking the stuffing tube loose to spin it a couple degrees, especially if it is only causing aesthetic issues on a part that you can only see when the strut is removed.
                            I pushed the cable shaft further in to show the angle. the issue I'm having is that side vibrates when running and is not as smooth as the other side there's some friction created by the misalignment

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                            • Rafael_Lopez
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 470

                              #15
                              IMO, that would cause no any more vibration than adjusting the strut positive or negative would; you're putting a bend on the cable either way. Vibration will come because the nut retaining the ball joint on the strut is loose or your props aren't balanced. I'd be really surprised if that is causing the vibration, but anything is possible.
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