Zelos - Rudder Dilema

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  • mikiek
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2017
    • 191

    #16
    Ray - never heard of it until just now.
    May your batteries never fail you...

    Mike

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    • MADRCER
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2017
      • 751

      #17
      Originally posted by REDLINE1
      Nice work The guide tubes on mine are not glued in so I just disconnected the cables at the servo horn and pulled the entire tray out
      That's exactly how I took mine out as well.
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      • ray schrauwen
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 9471

        #18
        Originally posted by mikiek
        Ray - never heard of it until just now.
        Nortavlag Bulc

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        • REDLINE1
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2016
          • 199

          #19
          Originally posted by ray schrauwen
          That brings me back to my RC plane days lol. They might work if you get the right size

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          • mikiek
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2017
            • 191

            #20
            Can't win for losing. The rudder cables were not going in easy from the stern. I pushed one into the rudder strut which led into the guide tube right behind that. A few more inches in it started to bind so I gave it a push while twisting it. Seemed like it was going in but it turned out the only thing moving was the guide tube which pulled thru the transom. There's no way to grab the tube inside the hull and push it thru the hole again.

            So now it looks like the only way to get the tube in again is starting at the outside on the transom but of course the rudder strut is in the way of doing that. So that strut is fastened with 4 screws that go into some sort of nut on the inside. I got a feeling the nuts are not anchored at all so if I can unscrew the screws the nuts fall to the bottom of the hull and it would appear almost impossible to get them back on the screws again. Of course all this assumes I can get the tubes out of that bracket at the rear of the tray.

            Haaayelp
            May your batteries never fail you...

            Mike

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            • vinnyp
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2017
              • 283

              #21
              Mike,
              When I reassembled mine after my crappy carbon fiber job, I had a similar issue with the white tubes. I found the only way I could get the white rudder tubes back through the hull and into the rudder support bracket was to first put the cable in through the hull from the rear, then slide the white tubes down the cable , the cable will guide the white tubes into place. It wasn't easy, but I managed to get it done.

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              • mikiek
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2017
                • 191

                #22
                I hear ya. Same solution here. In addition, to get the tube into the strut, I didn't take the entire rudder strut assembly off. Only the part that extends out, I left the mounting bracket in place. Didn't have to deal with the nuts that way. It also made sliding the cable all the way thru the tube MUCH easier.

                I just hope I remember to put some silicon on the hole in the transom.

                BTW - the epoxy job on the tray mounts looks very solid. Don't think they'll be moving again. I can't help but wonder if the tray was flapping around while I was running the boat. I suspect it was, and that sure would have messed up the balance at speed. I hope to get everything back together tonite and give her a run in the AM. Which reminds me to charge some batteries.
                May your batteries never fail you...

                Mike

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                • mikiek
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 191

                  #23
                  I'm going to be cutting it very close with that cable. It goes into the fastener on the servo arm but only extends out the other side about 1/16". The rudder movement feels very stiff and rather hard to move. I don't recall it being that way before but maybe it was. The servo can still turn the rudder.

                  I'll have the rescue tug with me this time - I may need it.
                  May your batteries never fail you...

                  Mike

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                  • Erroneous
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 451

                    #24
                    Be sure to lube the cables and work them back and forth. I use Tri-flow, just a lil squirt at both cable ends.

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                    • mikiek
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 191

                      #25
                      Thanks - I wondered about that. There was no lube on the cables when I pulled them
                      May your batteries never fail you...

                      Mike

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                      • vinnyp
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 283

                        #26
                        I spray down the rudder as well as the cables after every use. Then again, I run in salt water.

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                        • Shoc-RC
                          Junior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 25

                          #27
                          Originally posted by ray schrauwen
                          Brilliant actually, mine are okay but they were a B!t%h to get out, had to ramrod the white tubing after because it had developed a few bind points.

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