Proboat Zelos G 48" Cat Gas Powered!

[Erroneous]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=6AL9f7vFIB8 Watch the vid.. This is cavitation folks.

[Erroneous]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TFYVfm_elkA @ :27 of my vid. This is a twin electric setup, no clutches. Is my clutch slipping? Granted there are twice the props pushing this thing but the cavitation is obvious. Too much throttle from the hole....

[BPINE]

Well I will let you know very soon what I think about this, I couldn't resist and ordered one. I have a few buddies that are pretty dedicated racers and I am sure my boat won't be stock for long and we will get a handle on this. It sure sounds like cavitation to me as well.

[bigcam406]

I mean this in a nice way is it this 1 documented clutch issue or am I missing something?

Another person who bought one gave it a scathing review on the Horizon website and ended up returning it.

[BPINE]

Another person who bought one gave it a scathing review on the Horizon website and ended up returning it.

Hmm this could be interesting, seems that guy doesn't understand how to tune a 2 stroke and there are plenty of props out there that will work for this boat, props hit things and break part of the hobby but for people that buy a RTR should be able to buy stock props when needed.

[Erroneous]

Thats another thing that needs to be understood. Props are either good for top end or hole shot. The trick is finding a happy median. This is true for full scale boats as well. The prop is in effect a gear, you cant take off from a stop in 4th gear in your car. The gear is not set up for that. If they would have put a prop on this boat that was good for holeshot everyone would cry that its only doing 40mph topped out (1st-2nd gear).... Lastly there is a reason that in any form of hobby or racing the guy who spends more time/money on his setup is in first place.

[CraigP]

A variable pitch prop would be interesting, eh guys?

[andygoesfast]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TFYVfm_elkA @ :27 of my vid. This is a twin electric setup, no clutches. Is my clutch slipping? Granted there are twice the props pushing this thing but the cavitation is obvious. Too much throttle from the hole....

No need to be a dick.. Raphael has admitted there is a problem with my boat. I sent him my motor.. idk how many boats have the issue. Watch the product video for the zelos g it's a lot different from my video it has hole shot no problem, stands up and goes! Watch the video I made - rc boat problem, when I go by the camera the rpm change and the jet stream behind the boat has no change. If the prop was changing rpm the jet stream should change even if the boat doesn't accelerate? When I have this issue, I could hold the throttle floored and the boat would go about 3 miles an hour in definitely whether I'm going straight or turning with my RPMs through the roof.

This is not my first boat, or even proboat. If this is how the boat is then I would say the rockstar is better. After talking with Raphael I am sure mine is having issues. Per the developer

Now we can argue this out like Internet tough guy's? Or wait for Rafael next week to say what is wrong? If he says it is me I will be glad to post that up here. I am not above error. I could ask him to join in the thread?

[Erroneous]

How was I being a ----?.... Showing my point of view and providing proof from my experience?....Good luck to you.....

[bigcam406]

Any updates?

[andygoesfast]

Any updates?

I just got my motor back from Raphael. He just changed my clutch shoes for some others that he had around.. I have change the shoes twice already my self that's a total for 4 sets of clutch shoes in 1.5 gallons.. Who's to say the clutch material that got worn off didn't get sucked into my engine and cause wear to the bearing or rings(or set me up for premature masive failure).. he was to busy to run my motor.. I will put the motor in my boat this week after work and run the boat this weekend. If the problem is not corrected I am just going to box it up and send it back. I am done trying! If proboat cant fix it, I dont want to spend the time or money to.

I dont want to speak for BPINE but I will say he is not impressed with the boat, even a little bit.


I want the boat to be good(cause other wise I am a fool for buying it) but I am just about out of faith. I have never been so disappointed in a boat, proboat, or ANY of my rc purchases at this point. I will not buy a proboat off the product video anymore and that's for sure..

And for erroneous, you have been tolling me ever since I posted my problem. You post repetitively with out reading what I wrote. You need to watch my video "rc boat problem" I edited it out in the other videos(as previously stated) because I was not trying to make the boat look like a pos. in the video rc boat problem- at about 10 second in, you will hear the motors rmps go crazy high. I try to feather the gas for over 10 seconds before it hooks up.. listen to the rpms of the motor if the prop was changing rpms with the motor the the stream behind the boat should change even if the boat doesn't accelerate(you will need sound). I know what caviation is.. I have de-tounged props on my zelos 36.. as for your props top end or bottom end, I will just say no.. I know your 100% right there but this is a stock rtr boat. It should cavitate that bad, watch the product video.. or the video of Raphael e-converted one, it comes out of the hole(in a turn) like a bat out of hell. I would like to keep the thread clean.. If you want to talk more feel free to pm me and I will send you my number so we can talk.


Rc boat problem

https://youtu.be/rf81tHdorvg

Original product video

https://youtu.be/1pqtCUND4Ds

Raphael e converted one

https://youtu.be/lf7xocfUz3U

[BPINE]

Well I unfortunately I bought one of these and I am more than a little disappointed. I have run about a gallon of fuel through it a little at a time because both water pick ups don't work very well, hardly a trickle and it gets pretty hot. I broke it in on a stand with a water pump running which worked just fine but in the water not much water at all. As discussed the clutch is not good, about 75% or so of the time it will not engage especially after it has been run a while. So far top speed about 37 mph according to the radar gun, far from 50 +++ as advertised. Last thing so far is don't turn left it will flip even at 1/2 throttle.
Horizon has been a great resource for me I have bought a ton of stuff from them and have had a few problems which were taken care of but I just don't see how this boat is ever going to work.

[Erroneous]

Not trolling anyone. Tried giving advice to no avail. As I said, good luck to you.......

[bigcam406]

I just got my motor back from Raphael. He just changed my clutch shoes for some others that he had around.. I have change the shoes twice already my self that's a total for 4 sets of clutch shoes in 1.5 gallons.. Who's to say the clutch material that got worn off didn't get sucked into my engine and cause wear to the bearing or rings(or set me up for premature masive failure).. he was to busy to run my motor.. I will put the motor in my boat this week after work and run the boat this weekend. If the problem is not corrected I am just going to box it up and send it back. I am done trying! If proboat cant fix it, I dont want to spend the time or money to.

I dont want to speak for BPINE but I will say he is not impressed with the boat, even a little bit.


I want the boat to be good(cause other wise I am a fool for buying it) but I am just about out of faith. I have never been so disappointed in a boat, proboat, or ANY of my rc purchases at this point. I will not buy a proboat off the product video anymore and that's for sure..

And for erroneous, you have been tolling me ever since I posted my problem. You post repetitively with out reading what I wrote. You need to watch my video "rc boat problem" I edited it out in the other videos(as previously stated) because I was not trying to make the boat look like a pos. in the video rc boat problem- at about 10 second in, you will hear the motors rmps go crazy high. I try to feather the gas for over 10 seconds before it hooks up.. listen to the rpms of the motor if the prop was changing rpms with the motor the the stream behind the boat should change even if the boat doesn't accelerate(you will need sound). I know what caviation is.. I have de-tounged props on my zelos 36.. as for your props top end or bottom end, I will just say no.. I know your 100% right there but this is a stock rtr boat. It should cavitate that bad, watch the product video.. or the video of Raphael e-converted one, it comes out of the hole(in a turn) like a bat out of hell. I would like to keep the thread clean.. If you want to talk more feel free to pm me and I will send you my number so we can talk.


Rc boat problem

https://youtu.be/rf81tHdorvg

Original product video

https://youtu.be/1pqtCUND4Ds

Raphael e converted one
https://youtu.be/lf7xocfUz3U

Wow. Too bad Raphael couldnt have done more for you considering he reached out to you . As for Bpine, sorry to hear you are experiencing similar and different issues considering the cooling. I guess the best bet is to just buy the hull and build the rest yourself. Very disappointing to say the least because i was hoping there would be a fix from Proboat for these problems.

[Rc4me]

Andy!!! Let me kno when you go out this weekend. Im glad i didnt get one too. Effing clutches. Yours deff not right. Your zelos should smoke my gator not run about the same.