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  • kfxguy
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Oct 2013
    • 8746

    #16
    Ugh. Tried to go run it yesterday. There was some dark clouds off in the distance. Was actually supposed to rain all day yesterday but still hasn't by the time I got home from work. So I hurry up and pack up to head to the lake. I get there (it's only 1/2 mile down the road so I take a golf cart there) and I'm almost to my spot and all of a sudden the temp drops at least 10-15 degrees and the wind starts whipping like a mini hurricane. I look out on the lake and it was the roughest I've ever seen. Turn around and head back. I thought I wasn't gonna make it back as the wind was blowing so hard it was moving the cart all around. Downed trees and branches on the road now. Crazy how it got like that in the matter of ten or so minutes. It never even rained. I calmed back down after a couple hours. So hopefully I can get out there today. I'm dying to run this thing after the changes I made! Keep you guys posted.
    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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    • Keagan-Z06
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 970

      #17
      Originally posted by kfxguy
      Ugh. Tried to go run it yesterday. There was some dark clouds off in the distance. Was actually supposed to rain all day yesterday but still hasn't by the time I got home from work. So I hurry up and pack up to head to the lake. I get there (it's only 1/2 mile down the road so I take a golf cart there) and I'm almost to my spot and all of a sudden the temp drops at least 10-15 degrees and the wind starts whipping like a mini hurricane. I look out on the lake and it was the roughest I've ever seen. Turn around and head back. I thought I wasn't gonna make it back as the wind was blowing so hard it was moving the cart all around. Downed trees and branches on the road now. Crazy how it got like that in the matter of ten or so minutes. It never even rained. I calmed back down after a couple hours. So hopefully I can get out there today. I'm dying to run this thing after the changes I made! Keep you guys posted.
      Go get em kfx! At least you have a lake nearby, all I have is the open sea and a scary river. I ain't about to go in no dingy to retrieve my Voracity in that there river of mine.
      Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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      • Rafael_Lopez
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 470

        #18
        Here is Darin Jordan's second run of the day. Also the second time his boat has touched water. I believe he was running 1815 props with twin Voracity motors on 6s to each ESC. As the day progressed, through tuning he finally got it close to dialed and set the NAMBA T-cat record with a :27.xxx second 2 lap run.
        Here is video. As you can tell by the wheelies he was popping, this early on he was unable to open it up much.


        I decided to post this here because the boat is no longer stock, considering he is running Voracity motors. ESCs are stock and not breaking a sweat.
        Rafael Lopez
        Product Developer-Pro Boat
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        • Keagan-Z06
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2016
          • 970

          #19
          Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez
          Here is Darin Jordan's second run of the day. Also the second time his boat has touched water. I believe he was running 1815 props with twin Voracity motors on 6s to each ESC. As the day progressed, through tuning he finally got it close to dialed and set the NAMBA T-cat record with a :27.xxx second 2 lap run.
          Here is video. As you can tell by the wheelies he was popping, this early on he was unable to open it up much.


          I decided to post this here because the boat is no longer stock, considering he is running Voracity motors. ESCs are stock and not breaking a sweat.
          What did he hit?
          Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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          • Rafael_Lopez
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 470

            #20
            We don't know. Maybe a turtle, maybe a duck swimming under water. He wipes out quite a bit getting his boat dialed in and he didn't get even a single chip. Boat took the beating like a champ.
            Rafael Lopez
            Product Developer-Pro Boat
            My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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            • arrover
              Senior Member
              • May 2015
              • 322

              #21
              Wow. Good day for you both! Let us know how tomorrow goes.
              ProBoat Zelos 36 Twin, Voracity 36, Impulse 31, Stealthwake 23, and HobbyKing Flowmaster Videos

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              • kfxguy
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Oct 2013
                • 8746

                #22
                Well after all my little mods I was dying to run it all weekend. Yesterday was nasty wet with serious winds. Today was very pretty but winds that were just downright ridiculous. I went to an Easter carnival mid day and the huge blow space walks (not sure what everyone else calls them...the huge inflatable thing kids jump in lol) were getting blown all over the place. Even being staked down. One took off and was stopped by a light pole. I was leaning against it when it flew away lol. Anyway, I still went to the lake with the zelos. Sat around and waited for the water to calm down and it did. Just the wind really didn't. I guess it changed directions and was being blocked somewhat by the trees. I threw her in on 6s. She felt really strong. I couldn't stay in the throttle. Every time I get to full throttle the nose came up and wanted to flip. Finally it did. It landed right side up and I kept going. Then I heard a screeching noise so I brought it in. That what I get for being impatient. Well I was trying to get some run time in before my trip to Minnesota and my painfully long down time I about to face. The motor cocked sideways from the impact. Evidently I can't can't in there and get the dang thing tight enough. Hand won't fit. So I made a tool. I saw something like it on here someone else had made. It's a flex shaft with brass over it with a 2.5mm Allen on the end and a hex on the other to put a ratchet on it. Did a test. I tightened it as tight as I could like normal. Then tried the tool. Whaddaya know....I was able to crank down more on it. Good deal...I feel better now.

                Ive been hell bent on seeing what I can get out of it stock but I'm anxious to change props. Next time out will have a set of abc's on it. Check it.....its got some pep to it!


                Btw, it went 65 in this video just blipping the throttle like that. I was disappointed earlier but after watching the video and seeing I never was able to get on it, I'll take 65 doing what it was doing lol

                32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                • Rafael_Lopez
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 470

                  #23
                  Originally posted by arrover
                  Wow. Good day for you both! Let us know how tomorrow goes.
                  I ended the event with the NAMBA Q-Cat 2 lap record with a 0:29.37. Darin ended the event with the NAMBA 2 lap T-Cat record with a 0:27.1. This RTR boat now holds a NAMBA 2 lap records.
                  Rafael Lopez
                  Product Developer-Pro Boat
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                  • kfxguy
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 8746

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez
                    I ended the event with the NAMBA Q-Cat 2 lap record with a 0:29.37. Darin ended the event with the NAMBA 2 lap T-Cat record with a 0:27.1. This RTR boat now holds a NAMBA 2 lap records.
                    So awesome. Not only does it hold one, but two records. That's gotta sting for some other "rtr guy" that was bragging about having the best rtr out there. Lol
                    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                    • kfxguy
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 8746

                      #25
                      Made a quick trip to the lake. Wind is still kicking and the water wasn't real bad but I did make a new best today. Abc 1814-17-45 props. The temps stayed in check (98f or less) but I was only making speed runs. The 1815's may or may not be too much. This is my last run for a few weeks so you fellas are gonna have to pick up where I left off. Timing was at 0 on this run

                      32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                      • kfxguy
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 8746

                        #26
                        Made a quick trip to the lake. Wind is still kicking and the water wasn't real bad but I did make a new best today. Abc 1814-17-45 props. The temps stayed in check (98f or less) but I was only making speed runs. The 1815's may or may not be too much. This is my last run for a few weeks so you fellas are gonna have to pick up where I left off. Timing was at 0 on this run

                        32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                        • paulfromtulsa
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 211

                          #27
                          Originally posted by kfxguy
                          Made a quick trip to the lake. Wind is still kicking and the water wasn't real bad but I did make a new best today. Abc 1814-17-45 props. The temps stayed in check (98f or less) but I was only making speed runs. The 1815's may or may not be too much. This is my last run for a few weeks so you fellas are gonna have to pick up where I left off. Timing was at 0 on this run


                          Nice Travis! How were temps? Yku think there's more room to do a 1915

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                          • Brushless55
                            Creator
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 9488

                            #28
                            Nice and smooth !
                            looks good man
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                            • kfxguy
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 8746

                              #29
                              Let me lay this out for you guys. These props do not seem very aggressive but the do drive better and feel/sound smoother. The temps in the esc were non existent. Ambient temp. The highest I recorded was 98f on the motors immediately after pulling the hatch. I was only doing speed runs BUT as you can see the boat was running wet and was very stable. I could raise the strut some and pick up a few more mph easily but in these conditions I didn't want to chance it so I put the struts as negative as they would go as a starting point. It just so happens it made a few nice clean passes in the high winds that I didn't want to press my luck so I packed up with a smile on my face.....knowing it's got 80 in it no problem. That's pretty damn impressive out of a rtr boat with a prop swap. Raphael just told me the temps on the motors would likely be higher with the low timing I had because they like some timing because of the 6 poles, so next time I'll be trying higher timing. I may even try the 1815's I have.
                              32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                              • kfxguy
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 8746

                                #30
                                I think 1915's are too much for these motors. Honestly you don't need to. How fast you wanna go? It'll do 80 as it is I'm sure of it. It was neutered because of the high winds.
                                32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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