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  • arrover
    Senior Member
    • May 2015
    • 322

    #241
    My flexes are always almost greaseless after I run. Even if it's only for a packs worth. I also get grease on the rear of the boat and I have found it in the tunnel up near the front of the exterior of the boat. It's strange. One of my drives is slightly lower than the bottom of the boat. If you put a straight edge on the rear pad, the strut body where it mounts to the hull will hold the straight edge off of the hull. JP, let me know how things work out for you.
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    • JPriami
      N4FOX
      • Aug 2010
      • 1675

      #242
      Arrover, will do. I put a little locktite on those threads & light grease on the piviot balls. Also put a thin bit of silicone between the strut & transom as I bolted them back on. If they leak now I'll be surprised.

      As well one of my stingers are just a hair below the sponson.
      Land, Sea & Air, A true RC Addict.

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      • gman350
        Member
        • Aug 2015
        • 31

        #243
        I've been going over my Zelos, tightening bolts, waterproofing rx, etc.

        One of the motors had no loctite on any of the endbell screws, and most of them were 1/2-1 turn loose. The other motor was fine and had loctite on all screws.

        All of the strut and rudder to transom bolts were loose.

        I sure do like the removable electronics tray.

        Removing the motors was kind of a pain, was thinking about cutting down an allen wrench to fit, found that Kintec racing has one on their front page that looks like it will make the job a lot easier.

        I scribed lines where the mounts were as a baseline, then when reinstalling I slipped the flexshafts in and out and moved the motor until the flex didn't deflect on the collet.

        I didn't take apart the struts, but I think I will after reading the above posts.
        Last edited by gman350; 04-03-2016, 08:51 PM.

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        • gman350
          Member
          • Aug 2015
          • 31

          #244
          Is there anything I can put on the ends of the rudder cables ( at the servo end ) to keep them from fraying?

          Considering soldering the ends when I do my flexshafts, didn't know how well it would work?

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          • gman350
            Member
            • Aug 2015
            • 31

            #245
            Boy these flexshafts fit tight in the liners.

            They had little to no grease on them, as tight as they fit I'll bet they won't hold much grease.

            Maybe the liners will "wear" in to allow a tad more clearance?

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            • gman350
              Member
              • Aug 2015
              • 31

              #246
              So I noticed the boat sits flat on my workbench....which seemed a little odd due to the water cooling pickups.....

              Is that what is referred to as "hook" on the bottom of the hull at the transom?
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              • Keagan-Z06
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2016
                • 970

                #247
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                Z getting some Air!
                Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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                • Rafael_Lopez
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 470

                  #248
                  Originally posted by gman350
                  So I noticed the boat sits flat on my workbench....which seemed a little odd due to the water cooling pickups.....

                  Is that what is referred to as "hook" on the bottom of the hull at the transom?
                  No, that's normal. The steps are designed that way; all of our cats are designed that way. It's parts of why they "drift" and handle so well. Once on plane, the boat should only ride on the back two steps.
                  Last edited by Rafael_Lopez; 04-05-2016, 10:30 AM.
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                  • Rafael_Lopez
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 470

                    #249
                    Originally posted by JPriami
                    It did this out of the box on the first run. I adjusted the struts maybe 0.5mm the 2nd run & it did it. No adjustments for the 3rd run and it did it.

                    I just removed both of them for inspection. It appears to be leaking from where the piviot ball screws into the long shank of the outdrive. It was really loose at that connection. That's where the bulk of the grease was & those threads were covered in it. Im guessing water passing by it at a fast rate creates a vaccum. Then the grease gets pulled out. I'll clean the grease and use a little locktite on reassembly.

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                    I'm glad you found that these drives come apart. From time to time they can vibrate loose a little. The grease coming out like that tells you they need service. I didn't see anything like your picture with all the grease during testing, but my boat was the first off the production line. It's likely they forgot to tighten them down all the way on yours.

                    For those servicing the drives, I wouldn't put loctite on them. Tightening them down too much will prevent them from being adjustable, or will at least make it a PITA to adjust. If loctite gets on the plastic pillow ball seat inside the drives it can damage them. loctite is know to break down composites. If you are concerned about them coming lose, use silicone on the threads when you put them together.


                    Arrower, if one of your drives sits lower than the other you may have a defective boat. This may be why your boat bounces the way you have described. Share some pictures with me if you don't mind. We may be able to send you a replacement hull if it's as bad as you describe. There is no adjustment for you to loosen and push the drive up. It also concerns me because the drive and the stuffing tube have to be aligned or there will be an excess of friction on the flex shaft. You can PM me the pictures or post them here, up to you.
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                    • Keagan-Z06
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 970

                      #250
                      Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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                      • Mxkid261
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 734

                        #251
                        Originally posted by Keagan-Z06
                        Looks a little windy lol

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                        • zooma
                          Local club FE racer
                          • May 2014
                          • 652

                          #252
                          Good grief. I went to the club lake today, and there were four of these already. Too late for bragging rights.
                          Ron - The Villages, FL

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                          • Keagan-Z06
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2016
                            • 970

                            #253
                            Originally posted by Mxkid261
                            Looks a little windy lol
                            Sure was, I can't catch a break since I got into RC boats.
                            Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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                            • JPriami
                              N4FOX
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 1675

                              #254
                              Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez
                              I'm glad you found that these drives come apart. From time to time they can vibrate loose a little. The grease coming out like that tells you they need service. I didn't see anything like your picture with all the grease during testing, but my boat was the first off the production line. It's likely they forgot to tighten them down all the way on yours.

                              For those servicing the drives, I wouldn't put loctite on them. Tightening them down too much will prevent them from being adjustable, or will at least make it a PITA to adjust. If loctite gets on the plastic pillow ball seat inside the drives it can damage them. loctite is know to break down composites. If you are concerned about them coming lose, use silicone on the threads when you put them together.


                              Arrower, if one of your drives sits lower than the other you may have a defective boat. This may be why your boat bounces the way you have described. Share some pictures with me if you don't mind. We may be able to send you a replacement hull if it's as bad as you describe. There is no adjustment for you to loosen and push the drive up. It also concerns me because the drive and the stuffing tube have to be aligned or there will be an excess of friction on the flex shaft. You can PM me the pictures or post them here, up to you.
                              I didn't put locktite on the threaded collar that holds the ball in place. I used it on the threads where I was pointing too in the pictures. They didn't vibrate loose. They were that way out of the box. Like you said they must of missed that at the factory. Only other down side to it is my flex cables look way more worn than just 3 times at the lake. One of my struts is also slightly lower than the bottom of the hull. It's not much, but still so. I'll try to get a picture showing that if I have time.
                              Land, Sea & Air, A true RC Addict.

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                              • JPriami
                                N4FOX
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 1675

                                #255
                                Originally posted by zooma
                                Good grief. I went to the club lake today, and there were four of these already. Too late for bragging rights.
                                Time to paint it & modify!
                                Land, Sea & Air, A true RC Addict.

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