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  • sunsation288
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 118

    #1

    Picture of exaust water spill ?

    Hello every one , i just made 3 run with my new SV27 , and i am very satisfied , and my only concern is ...how much water circulate in my boat ? ....as far i can see , only small amount of water spill at the exaust hole ......have you picture of what we need to have ? , just to help me ...thanks in advance ...and sorry for my bad english .....and if i am not clear ...feel free to ask
    Regards
    Christian
  • ReddyWatts
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 1711

    #2
    Does this photo help?
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    ReddyWatts fleet photo
    M1 Supercat - Neu 1527 1Y, 8s / Mean Machine- Feigao 580, 8s, 120 HV esc
    Mean Machine - Feigao 540 14XL, 8s, 100 amp HV esc, X537/3

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    • sunsation288
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 118

      #3
      Thanks Reddy , your always ready to help , mine is a brushless , i can see output on your nitro , nitro and brushless have the same water pickup ? , i am presently away from my home , (at work ) and check for the pickup tonight
      Thanks again
      Christian

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      • ReddyWatts
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 1711

        #4
        We are between the kids baseball and football seasons. Have some time to help.
        ReddyWatts fleet photo
        M1 Supercat - Neu 1527 1Y, 8s / Mean Machine- Feigao 580, 8s, 120 HV esc
        Mean Machine - Feigao 540 14XL, 8s, 100 amp HV esc, X537/3

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        • sunsation288
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 118

          #5
          I definitely not enought water coming out , the picture i found from Darin Jordan boat have more output than mine
          Thanks i will dig in tomorow morning
          Regards
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          • Doby
            KANADA RULES!
            • Apr 2007
            • 7280

            #6
            Quite often, the rudder water pickups are not the greatest. Sometimes drilling out the hole helps. A lot of people disconnect them in favor of a pickup attached to the transom. Thats what I did with mine and it shoots out a good 1&1/2 feet from the side.

            Of course that opens up another topic of discussion,,,is more water flow better or worse??? I say the more the better!
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            • HarryK
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 3

              #7
              Hey guys,
              Regarding the flow rate debate. This site has the flow rate formula and explanation for it. I've drilled through the rudder and slotted the other side of the rudder with a dremel. Temps never out of the teens with pond water temp in the 70's. http://www.overclockers.com/articles599/ -- Harry

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              • blakybob
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 126

                #8
                If you have your rudder angled too far back (positive) or too far in (negative) it will have an effect on how much water the rudder intake picks up. Is your rudder sitting straight up and down?

                Blake

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                • Electro
                  Junior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 17

                  #9
                  Hello, i had the same problem with mines but the only thing was that the water was clogged from the factory and no water would come out and i installed a water pickup on the rear and wow what a difference,

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                  • kck741
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 265

                    #10
                    flip the stock water jacket around on the motor you will see a diffeRANCE
                    S.S.R.C-Southern Style Radio Control

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                    • sewerpit
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 117

                      #11
                      hows this added larger water outlet and ose waterjacket

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                      • Fluid
                        Fast and Furious
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 8012

                        #12
                        It is a common misconception that the water has to spray out under high pressure and volume to cool the motor and ESC. This is simply not true - not my fault, it's physics. Water has a high specific heat (means it takes time to heat up = takes time to take heat away from the source) which makes it a so-so medium for removing heat - but we have no choice. Push the water too rapidly through the motor and ESC and cooling will be worse than if the water moves more slowly. This is even more the case if you are using old-skool "cooling coils" instead of a water jacket where water comes into direct contact with the motor housing. Bottom line - as long as you have a steady stream of water exiting the boat you'll be fine. It should not shoot out like a firehose.

                        Our motors and ESCs do not generate nearly as much heat as a nitro or gas motor does so they are easier to cool. Good BL motors are ~90% efficient, while gas motors are ~50% efficient. What is not used for turning the prop is turned into heat, so for equal outputs in horsepower the gas motor generates almost twice as much heat....


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                        • ReddyWatts
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1711

                          #13
                          Water velocity and heat transfer.

                          You do not need high pressure in a boat cooling system, but the more flow the better.

                          The effect of velocity on heat transfer for water in a tube is shown in Figure 23-3.
                          Attached Files
                          ReddyWatts fleet photo
                          M1 Supercat - Neu 1527 1Y, 8s / Mean Machine- Feigao 580, 8s, 120 HV esc
                          Mean Machine - Feigao 540 14XL, 8s, 100 amp HV esc, X537/3

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                          • ReddyWatts
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 1711

                            #14
                            Home science project.

                            Simple test for you to see heat transfer between metal and water increase with water flow.

                            Fill two pans of water half full. Place both burners on high and time both for five minutes. Continually stir one to simulate a higher flow rate of water against metal and stir the other, once a minute. Check start temp and end temp with with your infrared temp guns.

                            Results:

                            Pan water (slow water flow) start temp 68.5 F, final temp145F after five minutes

                            Pan water (faster water flow) start temp 68.0F, final temp 170F after five minutes.

                            Faster moving water against the metal has a better heat transfer rate, so increasing the water flow will increase cooling of the motor and controller.
                            ReddyWatts fleet photo
                            M1 Supercat - Neu 1527 1Y, 8s / Mean Machine- Feigao 580, 8s, 120 HV esc
                            Mean Machine - Feigao 540 14XL, 8s, 100 amp HV esc, X537/3

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                            • Fluid
                              Fast and Furious
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8012

                              #15
                              Actually Ready, in your non-applicable "test" the water heated faster because all you did was to increase the movement of water across the heating surface (augmenting convection), demonstrating that water has a relatively low rate of heat transfer. All it proves is that some movement is required - which no one disputes anyway. Your "test" does not simulate what happens in our boats - unless you cool your motor with a pan of water.

                              Without knowing the tube diameter or the delta across the tube surface, the chart is meaningless and possibly misleading.

                              You can believe whatever you want of course, but myself - along with thousands of other thermodynamics-based engineers - have several centuries of science on our side. I'm just trying to help here - don't shoot the messenger. I'll keep quiet if it makes you happy.

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