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  • SweetAccord
    Speed Passion
    • Oct 2007
    • 1302

    #1

    Oil System

    I like the idea of the new Rio has it's own oiling system.

    Last edited by SweetAccord; 03-27-2008, 04:56 PM.
  • supervee1981
    Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 37

    #2
    thats really cool. does it work with grease...cuz that might be too thick to flow in thier. wish the supervee had some type of grease mechanism, i hate regreasing that thing after every run.

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    • SweetAccord
      Speed Passion
      • Oct 2007
      • 1302

      #3
      The Rio still requires that the shaft be re-greased in the manual, but they don't mention anything on the oil system, at least what I read in the manual or on reviews that I have seen. Yeah you can't put grease in it, to pull that off would need to make a pump of sort as for the thickness cause won't flow, it looks gravity fed.

      I'm guessing since it's a higher RPM boat and a lot bigger, maybe more lubrication is needed in addition to the grease alone, not sure but a logical guess. But having something like that on must add more runtime and less re-greasing on a less demanding system you would think.

      On the other hand, I would love to find something that is a grease equivalent that if the boat is placed vertical that it may be poured down into the drive shaft tube and when it leaks out the back you know it's good to go and still provide the same performance of grease without regressing and having to removing the drive shaft or anything for that matter. . . . . . .
      Last edited by SweetAccord; 03-28-2008, 11:57 AM.

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      • Bill-SOCAL
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Nov 2007
        • 1404

        #4
        I don't do the SV shaft but once per day. I pull the shaft at the end of a day's running, clean, dry it, and give it a good spray of Corrosion X. Then I grease it up just before the next day of running.

        I use Mercury Quicksilver 2-4-C Marine grease.

        The big boats I re-grease after every run.
        Don't get me started

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        • SweetAccord
          Speed Passion
          • Oct 2007
          • 1302

          #5
          I guess what would be nice is to have a 2-5 mm pipe or grease nipple on the drive shaft tube where you can pressure grease the shaft without having to remove anything . . . . . . . kinda like on your vehicle where you have to lube the bearing/shafts with a grease gun. . . . . . .that way nothing needs to be disassembled.

          Problem is that the drive shaft is not completely sealed, the area where the drive shaft enters in to the tube. Who cares if it comes out the back, that is how you know you got the whole drive cable and then just wipe off the excess . . . . . . possible future SV enhancement . . . .

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          • Bill-SOCAL
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Nov 2007
            • 1404

            #6
            Won't work if you are running a teflon liner. And it is really not needed on a small boat like an SV. Just remove it, dry/clean it, and re-install after each day of running.
            Don't get me started

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            • SweetAccord
              Speed Passion
              • Oct 2007
              • 1302

              #7
              Maybe a spray that can be shot down the drive shaft tube then with the lubrication properties of grease . . . . . . .

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              • Eodman
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Sep 2007
                • 1253

                #8
                The traxxas villian spare parts listing has an oiling system that you can add! Don't know if it works but it's in there!
                We did it with a Bang!

                Cats Are Where It's At!

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                • Bill-SOCAL
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 1404

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SweetAccord
                  Maybe a spray that can be shot down the drive shaft tube then with the lubrication properties of grease . . . . . . .
                  There are aerosol spray lubricants that spray like a mist but set up like grease.

                  But really, is pulling the shaft that big of a deal?? You want to make sure you clean and dry it anyhow since you cannot count on the grease to displace all the water that gets in there.

                  Pull the shaft once a day, clean, dry, lubricate. I fail to see what the issue is.
                  Don't get me started

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                  • Flying Scotsman
                    Fast Electric Adict!
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 5190

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SweetAccord
                    I guess what would be nice is to have a 2-5 mm pipe or grease nipple on the drive shaft tube where you can pressure grease the shaft without having to remove anything . . . . . . . kinda like on your vehicle where you have to lube the bearing/shafts with a grease gun. . . . . . .that way nothing needs to be disassembled.

                    Problem is that the drive shaft is not completely sealed, the area where the drive shaft enters in to the tube. Who cares if it comes out the back, that is how you know you got the whole drive cable and then just wipe off the excess . . . . . . possible future SV enhancement . . . .
                    Do what Bill has suggested. Leaving the flex in after a run is not a good idea...retained water, corrossion and the flex left in a position that may not flex when power is applied after a long state of no use.

                    Douggie

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                    • Eodman
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 1253

                      #11
                      Bill I agree ... with the investment factor I want to make sure I do it right the first time! Mistakes are money in this hobby!

                      However it is interesting that a manufacturer would introduce this! Perhaps it misleads the owner into thinking it is better than the old way and in fact quickens part failure! Early part failure = more spare part sales! Just saying!!!!!

                      Although I would expect that from Pro Boat rather than Aquacraft! Then again I could be wrong!
                      Last edited by Eodman; 03-28-2008, 03:14 PM.
                      We did it with a Bang!

                      Cats Are Where It's At!

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                      • Bill-SOCAL
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 1404

                        #12
                        For an SV27 there is no reason to do anything other than what I advised. In fact I do it with all my boats with the only difference being that on small boats I grease every day, and on big boats I grease every run. And I always take the shafts out between days that I run that boat.

                        And don't get confused by the oiler on gas boats. They are NOT FE boats. A screaming gas motor is doing 15,000 to 18,000 rpm. A FE boat is doing 25,000 or more. And in fact, most gas guys I run with do the same thing I advised. I don't actually see too many gas boats with oilers on them. Some have grease fittings, but those are mostly used on race days.
                        Don't get me started

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                        • Flyguy55
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 216

                          #13
                          A lot of the fast Nitro Guys run oilers . And some of the FE guys . Three of my FE boats at WW IV had oilers . With oilers I don't have to pull the flex shaft after every heat.
                          I clean and grease my flex shafts before every run when I check things over,( the ones with out oilers )even my SV 27 . BTW Bill , who won the SV 27 class , grin.

                          Just Add Water Racing Team

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                          • Bill-SOCAL
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 1404

                            #14
                            See, I knew it had nothing to do with driver skill!! I am putting an oiler on my SV TODAY!!!!
                            Don't get me started

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                            • SweetAccord
                              Speed Passion
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 1302

                              #15
                              I was liking the concept of a product such as this . . . . .

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                              Not saying this particular product will do the trick, not sure on viscosity and specs. Since it's in a liquid format initially it's easier <-key word, to get into the drive shaft, but then after exposure to air it turns to texture of grease . . . . . . hence, nothing to remove, nothing to have to strip, spaced correctly, nothing that needs to be re-inserted . . . . . . . . . .
                              Last edited by SweetAccord; 03-28-2008, 04:37 PM.

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