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so the SV 27 does have a competitive hull? Also with minor mods how fast can a SV go? I mean barring a new motor and ESC can better batteries, more cells or better prop make it much faster?
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Uhh no, that's not what I'm saying at all, I thought the rest of the context of my post clarified that.
My SV with a 440/3 and lipos goes alot faster than mid 30's. The Pmono boats I race against go waaay faster than 30...and the other Pmono boats are in most cases "faster" than my boat, but I didn't really mention speed, I said "I am able to run competitively". Darin Jordan, Brian Buass, Greg Schweers, Scott Bickford...These guys are the best and their boats are awesome! (okay Darin races an SV too, but he's still faster than me on most days).
I'm not saying all their boats cost that much, but I'll just say there are boats I run against that do indeed cost $837+.
To get an idea of relative speeds in our club, watch the PSFEMBC Pmono video on youtube...my SV is the yellow boat running in second (that is...until Bickford's boat stuffs and resurfaces upside down in front of my boat) to Buass' White super boat...that was when I was running all stock except for Lipos and a trick 440/3(burned up the stock stuff @ Nats by being stupid
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Admittedly, I often get good results by way of the attrition of others rather than driving away from the pack...but that being said, the SV27 is a relatively good handling hull that can be driven with reasonable ease by a person with limited RC boat driving experience...like myself.
When you race your Pmono against the SV27's Doozie, is it outright speed that's winning you all the races? or is it the driver? you are winning all the races aren't you?:rolleyes:Comment
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First I run an LSO boat against the SVs and have been in the top 2 every race since they began the mixed class (which is very fun btw) and yes top speed in the straights is whats helping, my driving is fair at best. But you have given me a great idea, I think Ill enter my lso in p-mono and just clean up the scraps. :rolleyes:Comment
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Prices are dropping, for about $450 you can build a 40mph fiberglass bl boat with a fm radio.
But for $279 its still impossible to buy another rtr that will perform as good as a SV. I do and do not enjoy saying that. On one hand I love the sv and performance. Its great for the hobby! On the other hand there is no competition. No other choices. Which stinks. PROBOAT NEEDS TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!!!Steven Vaccaro
Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!Comment
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Uhh no, that's not what I'm saying at all, I thought the rest of the context of my post clarified that.
My SV with a 440/3 and lipos goes alot faster than mid 30's. The Pmono boats I race against go waaay faster than 30...and the other Pmono boats are in most cases "faster" than my boat, but I didn't really mention speed, I said "I am able to run competitively". Darin Jordan, Brian Buass, Greg Schweers, Scott Bickford...These guys are the best and their boats are awesome! (okay Darin races an SV too, but he's still faster than me on most days). I'm not saying all their boats cost that much, but I'll just say there are boats I run against that do indeed cost $837+.
To get an idea of relative speeds in our club, watch the PSFEMBC Pmono video on youtube...my SV is the yellow boat running in second (that is...until Bickford's boat stuffs and resurfaces upside down in front of my boat) to Buass' White super boat...that was when I was running all stock except for Lipos and a trick 440/3(burned up the stock stuff @ Nats by being stupid ).
Admittedly, I often get good results by way of the attrition of others rather than driving away from the pack...but that being said, the SV27 is a relatively good handling hull that can be driven with reasonable ease by a person with limited RC boat driving experience...like myself.
When you race your Pmono against the SV27's Doozie, is it outright speed that's winning you all the races? or is it the driver? you are winning all the races aren't you?:rolleyes:
Doozie knows what speeds p monos run, he races against mine, since this is a mixed class of boats, the class was moved to 10 laps 1/10 mile course, to handicap the speed of my boat, so I had to retune to finish intact. made the class very competitive this way hence his top place finishes.Comment
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Im completely open, run it buy the other guys. Lets run 1/2 mile SV27 P-Mono LSO no excuses class :DComment
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Actually the price on the white super boat is a bit higher than $837. Hull, hardware, motor and ESC add up to about $830 add batteries and radio and it's at ~$1250.
The boat is pretty rediculous, but I built it to see what was possible. I can honestly say there's more power than the 33" hull can handle. It actually isn't a lot of fun to drive on the small course.
It will run a full mile race as it sits but probably won't stay on the water for the long straits of a nitro course. I'm going to detune it and go run with some of the nitro guys.
So at the last club race I hit a big fish with the Monster Mono in the second heat. Snapped the rudder off, destroyed the prop and one turn fin. I tossed a set of LiPos in my Orange SV along with a P-235 and 8 oz of lead (OK wrenches) for the third heat. I held Greg S off for almost two laps before I flipped it.
That final heat got me thinking. I figure there will be a lot of worn out SV hulls by next season with perfectly good power systems. So here is my thought: P-spec Mono class based on the SV power system- Any hull 30" and under (lots of good choices), SV power system, 4S1P LiPo, prop 47mm and under (I don't think I can bend a 47mm prop enough to hurt the stock ESC). It certainly make the P class more affordable and should make the racing more interesting.
So to get back on topic. I have 16 boats and the one boat that always goes to the pond with me is the SV. I recommend them all the time.
P.S. I'm building up a DF29 with SV power system to test the P-spec theory. I'll have it running for the first race in Sept.Brian "Snowman" Buaas
Team Castle Creations
NAMBA FE Chairman
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Thats a very good idea. There should be a thread on affordable class ideas.Comment
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P-spec...Cool idea! I have a Nostep2 that I was thinking of doing the same thing to...I'll get on that.
But really, isn't this just a scheme to get the SV27's out of your way?:D
Thanks for the cost info, I wasn't going to speculate on what yours cost, I was just going from what it'd cost me to build something of the same caliber. It was an approximation anyway.
Evofan - That's quite a recommendation BTW.Last edited by Ctonez; 08-09-2007, 01:00 PM.Comment
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Actually it wasn't to get the SV's out of the way. The P-spec class would replace the existing P class. Besides, you know I enjoy racing SV's as much as anyone. At this point it's more of a challenge than any other class I race.
Greg and I are the only two with all out P monos and we've been talking about how they are too fast for most of our lakes. We both decided we'd put the monster boats on the shelf. Greg will have his DF 29 with SV power out this weekend, I'm not going to make it to this race.
My idea is actually to make racing more classes cheaper and make the racing more competitive. You might not believe it, but lapping the field regularly isn't that much fun. I'd rather lose a really close race than win by a lap (larry and I go at it pretty regularly).
I have plans for a P Sport spec as well.:DBrian "Snowman" Buaas
Team Castle Creations
NAMBA FE ChairmanComment
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I was thinking of an N spec hydro class, say 6 nimh cells, an L size motor, in a 24" inch hull. motor must not be over 36mm dia and no more than 61mm in length. no more than a 100 amp speed control.
I have not worked out all the issues yet. but I think this would be a good class the speeds would be faster than normal LSH (at least in our club they would be):DComment
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