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  • Diesel6401
    Memento Vivere
    • Oct 2009
    • 4204

    #196
    Originally posted by SweetZ28
    I tried my novak 4300 and it stunk it reved way to much you would have to use a really small prop I think i tried a 38 or 35mm prop and it was slow because it reved so much you would need even way smaller of a prop...and also on NIMH packs the more KV the more strain and heat on all parts and battery packs.
    Ok, very good information. I did not know that. It seems like I keep going away from the Velineon system and looking at other things but at the end of the day it's prob the best fit for me. Just gotta face the fact
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    • Brushless55
      Creator
      • Oct 2008
      • 9488

      #197
      Originally posted by Diesel6401
      This is what i'm thinking for my RIO:



      http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...?prod=fei-540L
      6L (4116kv)

      On my batteries that i run i should reach between:
      29,635rpm on my 7.2v nimh and about 34,574rpm with my 8.4v nimh. Sound ok?

      Wow the shipping is 30 bucks on the esc!
      and the motor you want pulls over 100amps, that will cook the esc
      better to go low kv high volts, uses less amps

      If you have the XVL already, I would use that and see how you like it before buying another esc and motor
      the VXL motor makes awesome power!
      Last edited by Brushless55; 11-04-2009, 08:45 PM.
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      • Diesel6401
        Memento Vivere
        • Oct 2009
        • 4204

        #198
        Hey sweetz, did you say the titan 12t gets like 26000 rpm? When you tested that was that with lipo's or nimh?
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        • Diesel6401
          Memento Vivere
          • Oct 2009
          • 4204

          #199
          Originally posted by Brushless55
          Wow the shipping is 30 bucks on the esc!
          and the motor you want pulls over 100amps, that will cook the esc
          better to go low kv high volts, uses less amps

          If you have the XVL already, I would use that and see how you like it before buying another esc and motor
          the VXL motor makes awesome power!
          No I don't have a VXL I have an XL5 in my boat now. I was just debating on getting the whole VXL esc/motor combo. Trying to get my boat in the 25+mph range.
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          • SweetZ28
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 1322

            #200
            Originally posted by Diesel6401
            Hey sweetz, did you say the titan 12t gets like 26000 rpm? When you tested that was that with lipo's or nimh?
            Hi it was 26,000RPM witha 7.2V NIMH and my 3300KV showed 22,700RPM
            I think a 3500KV should move your boat at about 25MPH
            :p What go faster that's what I like to do!
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            • Diesel6401
              Memento Vivere
              • Oct 2009
              • 4204

              #201
              Originally posted by SweetZ28
              Hi it was 26,000RPM witha 7.2V NIMH and my 3300KV showed 22,700RPM
              I think a 3500KV should move your boat at about 25MPH
              I'm just gonna bite the bullet and get the VXL system combo. Now all I gotta do is buy it without the wife finding out lol. This should be interesting
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              • Brushless55
                Creator
                • Oct 2008
                • 9488

                #202
                Keep in mind its more than rpm..
                these brushless motors put out way more power and torque than the brushed motors you are replacing

                just because the rpms are lower does not mean they will be slower, you can prop them up and get alot more speed if that's what you are after.
                25mph+ should be very easy in this hull with a different motor and esc change
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                • Brushless55
                  Creator
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 9488

                  #203
                  I've been working on two other boats right now, but I still want to try one of my Team Orion Revolution 13x1 motors on 2s in this hull..
                  it could be to much rpm though, of about 37-39,000rpm, and around 230+ watts
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                  • Diesel6401
                    Memento Vivere
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 4204

                    #204
                    Originally posted by Brushless55
                    I've been working on two other boats right now, but I still want to try one of my Team Orion Revolution 13x1 motors on 2s in this hull..
                    it could be to much rpm though, of about 37-39,000rpm, and around 230+ watts
                    Let me know how that goes. Curious to see the results. I just ordered an upgraded water jacket and an additional water pickup for my supervee. Pretty soon I'll put the ammo recommended upgrade motor into the supervee. Don't have the extra $$ to do it know since a new video game is coming out on tuesday need the cash for it. (Call Of Duty )
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                    • Brushless55
                      Creator
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 9488

                      #205
                      Originally posted by Diesel6401
                      Let me know how that goes. Curious to see the results. I just ordered an upgraded water jacket and an additional water pickup for my supervee. Pretty soon I'll put the ammo recommended upgrade motor into the supervee. Don't have the extra $$ to do it know since a new video game is coming out on tuesday need the cash for it. (Call Of Duty )

                      will do

                      one thing to try is use a small pointed file and ream out just a little on the water pickup in the stock rudder, that will give really good results with cooling..
                      My temps never get abouve 120* no mater what prop I use and two weeks ago with a CF45 my temps were only 90* on the motor and only 87* on the esc using the stock rudder pickup and stock water jaket..
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                      • Rumdog
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 6453

                        #206
                        FYI, there is an xpower 100amp esc watercooled in the swap shop right now for 50 bucks. would be perfect for this boat!!

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                        • Diesel6401
                          Memento Vivere
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 4204

                          #207
                          Originally posted by Brushless55
                          will do

                          one thing to try is use a small pointed file and ream out just a little on the water pickup in the stock rudder, that will give really good results with cooling..
                          My temps never get abouve 120* no mater what prop I use and two weeks ago with a CF45 my temps were only 90* on the motor and only 87* on the esc using the stock rudder pickup and stock water jaket..
                          I will do the file trick. I'm also going to add the extra water pickup as well though. Y not since I already bought it, cant hurt.
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                          • Diesel6401
                            Memento Vivere
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 4204

                            #208
                            Originally posted by Rumdog
                            FYI, there is an xpower 100amp esc watercooled in the swap shop right now for 50 bucks. would be perfect for this boat!!
                            I'm going to go through with the VXL system in this boat. I really wanna c what it will do for this boat, curiosity may get the best of me on this one
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