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  • PatrickM
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 151

    #16
    Mike-
    The kink is about a 5 degree (maybe more, I didn't put protractor on it) bend in the cable where it exits the coupling. The up and down was not as drastically misaligned as the side to side issue. The pic view is looking directly down (90 degree) on the boat. Both the motor shaft and the stuffing tube are angled to right side of the hull forming a 5 degree or more angle between the motor and stuffing tube. It would appear that the motor was installed and then the stuffing tube rotated to the right in an attempt match the motor shaft position. I can send you the cable if you'd like, but I've put too much effort into the hull to return it at this point. Feel free to e-mail me at [email protected]

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    • Grimracer
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 662

      #17
      what i am taking from this is the motor (mount) is mounted crooked in the hull and the MFG attempted to "bend"? or rotate the stuffing tube to align the parts.

      The parts did not align so they forced the fit.

      Do you feel if the MFG would have at least gotten the parts to align it would have worked OK regardless of the position of the motor mount?

      Grim

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      • PatrickM
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 151

        #18
        cable1.jpg
        Originally posted by Grimracer
        what i am taking from this is the motor (mount) is mounted crooked in the hull and the MFG attempted to "bend"? or rotate the stuffing tube to align the parts.

        The parts did not align so they forced the fit.

        Grim
        Precisely!.....
        Did some quick measurements (kinda tough to do with any precision with everything installed) and it appears that the stuffing tube is intentionally offset to the right about 6mm from the hull centerline. The aft inside corners of the wood motor mount blocks are also offset to the right but their centerline is closer to about 8mm from the hull center and at a very slight angle. This misalignment with the stuffing tube probably forced the assembler to skew the stuffing tube by rotating the up-angled forward end around the prop shaft axis to bring it closer to the vertical center line of the coupler.... the assumption here being that the stuffing tube is potted in place with the motor, coupler and cable in place.

        Not sure what you mean by "regardless of the position of the motor mount"..... if the motor mount (motor shaft axis) is not positioned somewhat in line with the centerline of the stuffing tube, it won't be possible to align the goodies.... flex cable and rubber grommets won't be much help. Maybe the assemblers need some sort of fixture to position these components in relation to each other during the bonding and installation process.... but then you already know all this stuff...

        Attached is a pic of the kink in the cable...
        Last edited by PatrickM; 07-20-2012, 07:33 PM. Reason: added pic

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        • joker rc
          Banned
          • Feb 2012
          • 94

          #19
          Removed by Steven V. not usefull to the solution.

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          • Doby
            KANADA RULES!
            • Apr 2007
            • 7280

            #20
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            • stumblinh
              Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 52

              #21
              Originally posted by NissanGTR
              Here is an update. NOT HAPPY

              I still have not had a chance to run the Revolt more than 20 feet.

              I waited a week and a half to receive parts from aquacraft but they didn't send me all the parts needed even thought I was very thorough in my email regarding what parts were needed.

              After I brought this to their attention they said the additional parts would go out "this week".

              Sucks for me. It's been three weeks and I still haven not had a chance to run this thing. Now I have to possibly wait another two weeks before I can.

              At the end of the summer I am selling it and going to move on the another manufacturer. I'm done with Aquacraft.
              Wow granted revisions may have been made in production, my unit so far is great. The Revolt 30 was a recommend from a few friends who have them, did some reading in the forums and figured it was a good choice. Really sound build, upon arrival I just did a few things..

              1) used some shoegoo to add some strength (awesome stuff) around the motor mount blocks.
              2) installed a traxxas tqi 5channel rx and waterproof box (used clear rtv sealer to hold it in place (also awesome)
              3) Took the aweful deans off and did bullets to direct plug into my lipo's (way less issues and resistance)
              4) Used some of the packing foam parts to make battery spacers (taped packing tape around to add some life)
              5) Checked all screws for tightness, did not remove and thread lock.
              6) Did not clean the glue, lol, did not widen the intake

              Thoughts.. sweet out of the box boat, I need to dial in my controller a little and adjust the location of my lipo's, she was a little "wiggly" up at top speed even when holding a line. The nano-tech 6600mAH 2s race packs I used held up great, pretty warm but they should do the job nice. I have a couple larger props on order and this thing is BEGGING for a bigger prop.. motor was cold to the touch after running hard after both the first set of packs and the second set. Actually ESC and Motor were cold.. only thing remotely warm were the lipo's. I was going to go crazy w/ 6s lipo's and other upgrades but I'm pretty darn happy. I did order the ose upgrade parts, but those will be installed at a later date, stock parts seem to be pretty good, luckly everything lines up nice and seems of good quality.

              After the first run; things still all look good on the hardware.. the prop nut was backing off and the grub pin was a little loose too.. so warning to all, use some thread locker on BOTH :) I had no damage and caught it all in time. Worked up an audiance and they all loved the boat and the water kick up ;P

              Originally posted by joker rc
              mass produced junk you want a good boat build it yourself
              That is only true if you have some skills :P You can end up with a door stop if you don't know what you are doing! I've had a good experience so far and would recommend... I think most folks buying these boats are newbs or don't have the skill sets for building.. or maybe don't have the time to invest in custom builds. I've been in racing for a long time but 1/8 buggy/truggy and pro4 are my main area of expertice,, so this is a great step into this side of the hobby Not to mention we will be running this boat in a local class in the near future.


              Last edited by stumblinh; 07-21-2012, 12:40 AM.

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              • wavekatcher
                Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 38

                #22
                Originally posted by PatrickM
                [ATTACH=CONFIG]81124[/ATTACH]My Revolt came with a seriously misaligned motor to stuffing tube issue. It took a lot of motor mount and tube tweaking to get the alignment even close. It's still off quite a bit but much better than the factory crap. I tossed the factory cable (unusable due to a kink where it was forced into the misaligned motor connector) and the out of round flex adapter, replacing them with Steve's cable and an Octura flex hex. Attached is a pic showing the severity of the misalignment.
                I just unboxed my new Revolt 30 and it unfortunately looks like it has the exact same issue as your boat Patrick. Its fine if I look at it with my eyes crossed
                Revolt 30, SuperMonoX, NQD "Tear Into"

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                • ron1950
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 3024

                  #23
                  MY RETIREMENT PLAN?????.....POWERBALL
                  74 vintage kirby clasic hydro, pursuit mono, mg, 47'' mono, popeye hydro...

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                  • PatrickM
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 151

                    #24
                    Originally posted by wavekatcher
                    I just unboxed my new Revolt 30 and it unfortunately looks like it has the exact same issue as your boat Patrick. Its fine if I look at it with my eyes crossed
                    At this point , my advice would be to return the boat before putting any time or effort into it, and hope that the replacement is correct, or at least less misaligned. Grim is the best one to consult on this option.

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                    • wavekatcher
                      Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 38

                      #25
                      Originally posted by PatrickM
                      At this point , my advice would be to return the boat before putting any time or effort into it, and hope that the replacement is correct, or at least less misaligned. Grim is the best one to consult on this option.
                      Thanks for the reply. I had a look at the picture of the alignment of the flex and motor on the website for Aquacraft and mine is nowhere near where it should be. Terrible QC. I think I will heed your advice and just box it back up and hopefully the replacement boat will not be as bad. I will not be happy if I have to pay to ship it back tho.
                      Revolt 30, SuperMonoX, NQD "Tear Into"

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                      • PatrickM
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 151

                        #26
                        If Mike Z. doesn't respond with another option, you'll have to deal with Tower customer service. IMO, you shouldn't have to pay for return shipping on a defective item... but then who in hell do I think I am.... LOL!

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                        • arp1500
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 146

                          #27
                          when i had a aquacrap and the first run with in 5 mins it barrel rolled and split the hull i had to pay to ship it back to tower even thou it was a defect i said i dont want this piece of junk they said either call aquacrap and have them replace the hull or ship it back as a return

                          so i had to pay shipping

                          that is the whole reason why i have a bad taste in my mouth about aquacrap

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                          • ray schrauwen
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9471

                            #28
                            Originally posted by NissanGTR
                            Here is an update. NOT HAPPY

                            I still have not had a chance to run the Revolt more than 20 feet.

                            I waited a week and a half to receive parts from aquacraft but they didn't send me all the parts needed even thought I was very thorough in my email regarding what parts were needed.

                            After I brought this to their attention they said the additional parts would go out "this week".

                            Sucks for me. It's been three weeks and I still haven not had a chance to run this thing. Now I have to possibly wait another two weeks before I can.

                            At the end of the summer I am selling it and going to move on the another manufacturer. I'm done with Aquacraft.
                            Let me know, I might be interested.
                            Nortavlag Bulc

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                            • kobiwan73
                              Junior Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 9

                              #29
                              I just ordered one of these, should be here the 25th. But after reading this thread I tried to cancel the order before it shipped. This will/would have been my first boat. I quit racing touring car and wanted something that I could just buy throw in the water and have some fun with. But this thread has put a bad taste in my mouth. I know nothing about boats and don't need the hassle of getting a brand new one and have it not be built right from the factory and to replace stuff or have to go through it glueing stuff and what not. Kind of dissapointed really.
                              Last edited by kobiwan73; 07-23-2012, 10:47 AM.

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                              • longballlumber
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 3132

                                #30
                                Originally posted by kobiwan73
                                I just ordered one of these, should be here the 25th. But after reading this thread I tried to cancel the order before it shipped. This will/would have been my first boat. I quit racing touring car and wanted something that I could just buy throw in the water and have some fun with. But this thread has put a bad taste in my mouth. I know nothing about boats and don't need the hassle of getting a brand new one and have it not be built right from the factory and to replace stuff or have to go through it glueing stuff and what not. Kind of dissapointed really.
                                I am just curious... How many "pre-built" touring cars would you take out of the box and go race with out tearing it completely down to make sure you would be getting top perfomance out of the chassis...

                                In my eyes RTR boats fall under the same catagory. You need to go thru everthing to make sure it's right before throwing it on "the track".

                                Just my $.02

                                later,
                                Mike

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