UL-1's Sponson AOA (4 degrees)

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  • properchopper
    • Apr 2007
    • 6968

    #31
    the FINAL SOLUTION !

    Keith, I applaud your efforts to get the UL-1 performing correctly. Modding RTR's are a valuable learning tool, and I'm sure many of us will profit from your work. I've got mine running acceptably with the SV-27 motor & the G-10 pads & splayed packs. I was one of the first people to get one, and the first [ to my knowledge] to experience & report the fin problem & subsequent fix. But I'm moving on, now that the UL-1 has whetted my appetite for hydros. Witness my next project, a
    30"nitro that's been gutted & ready for the install of 1515 1Y power.
    Attached Files
    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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    • detox
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jun 2008
      • 2318

      #32
      With strut bottom set 1 5/16" below transom AOA is slightly under 2 degrees.

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      • detox
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jun 2008
        • 2318

        #33
        Originally posted by properchopper
        Witness my next project, a
        30"nitro that's been gutted & ready for the install of 1515 1Y power.
        Thanks, FYI I have a Phil Thomas SS21 hull on order I hope it meets my expectations.


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        • properchopper
          • Apr 2007
          • 6968

          #34
          I was a day away from ordering a PT myself when this deal came along [ Mr. Pachmeyer gutted the interior & CF'd the inside.] For 110 bucks I had to jump on it ! I'm sure , with your obvious skills the PT's gonna' rock.
          2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
          2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
          '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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          • detox
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Jun 2008
            • 2318

            #35
            Propperchopper, What is the AOA of your new hull? I bet it's less that 4 degrees. Maybe you can post a side shot of hull resting on setup board?


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            • properchopper
              • Apr 2007
              • 6968

              #36
              There's no strut as yet, so I can't really tell, BUT eyeballing it I'll say It's WAY less than 4 degrees. There's also considerable dihedral which predicts some decent cornering. I'll have to work the sponson bottoms some to get them " blueprinted".
              Unfortunately I'm in the middle of moving so I really can't start for at least 2 weeks, + my 2 1515 1Y's are at Nue for some "refreshing"
              2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
              2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
              '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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              • detox
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Jun 2008
                • 2318

                #37
                I applied Krylon White primer then sanded. I will apply White Krylon finish coat to sponson area only.

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                • detox
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 2318

                  #38
                  Letting White Krylon bake in the sun. I will try to get video this evening.

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                  • properchopper
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6968

                    #39
                    Keith, for what it's worth, I just spent a full day at the NAMBA Dist. 19 time trials with some of the fastest rigger pilots there are, and I gleaned that sponson angle is ALL important. Good luck with your mods Bro, looks like you're on the right track, and do post the results
                    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                    • detox
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 2318

                      #40
                      Sorry... no video. Low reservoir level, windy conditions, and weeds prevented a good test, but I could tell that the hull is more stable than before. I will try again soon.


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                      • Drag Boat Bob
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 304

                        #41
                        Originally posted by detox
                        Sorry... no video. Low reservoir level, windy conditions, and weeds prevented a good test, but I could tell that the hull is more stable than before. I will try again soon.


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                        I agree with PropChop,
                        I just ordered one of these (pic). I guess I am just not the drive that I thought I could be. I will still play with the UL-1 to have fun, but as PC said; it is limited. I am not sure just which motor I will put in it just yet (learning), but as an old 1320' guy, this may be my boat.

                        Bottom line here is... look at the sponson AOA' kinda looks like where you are headed.

                        Good luck my friend...
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                        • properchopper
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 6968

                          #42
                          Bob, that boat is GORGEOUS ! Gotta' hear more about it when you start your build.
                          2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                          2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                          '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                          • LuckyDuc
                            Team Ducati Racing
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 989

                            #43
                            Fancy looking rig Bob. What are the details?

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                            • Drag Boat Bob
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 304

                              #44
                              It is a rigger design that can be set up for circle or SAW, but you most likely knew that.

                              I have a very good friend who is visiting family and friends in Germany. He is not far from Kelheim where these are made. He said he will see if he can pick one up while there and ship it to me.

                              If this fails, I will be destined to order one from the US which most likely will take much longer.

                              I am hoping to get a lot of advice on the build and take my time. Being new at this, I don't want to screw it up.

                              In the meantime, I am still playing with the UL-1.

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                              • screamin
                                Junior Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 1

                                #45
                                batteries in sponsons

                                Originally posted by properchopper
                                Anxious to hear your ridepad-mod results. I'm testing my theory that the wobble can be reduced by spreading the battery weight further outward to move the roll center outward & at the same time getting the CG a little forward, which I believe will keep the nose better planted. I hope youu don't mind me intruding on this AOA thread, but we're both striving to get similar results.
                                Hi,

                                I was considering spreading my batteries out as well.
                                Can you tell me how you hold them in place & if there is sprayed foam in the sponsons to stop them from moving around.
                                At this moment my UL1 runs with the left sponson completley out of the water so i want to settle it down.

                                Thanks

                                JR

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