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  • Capt. Crash
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 301

    #1

    50 MPH with the 40X57/3

    Well I got mine in the water this weekend and the conditions were perfect for hydros....just a little ripple on the otherwise smooth water.

    I did 3 runs with 3 sets of packs....all runs were with the same set up.

    Stock motor & ESC (basically bone stock setup except upgraded flex shaft and thrust bearing added)

    Grim Racer 40X57/3 prop @ 1" strut depth

    MaxAmp 5250 30c 2s packs

    Stock turn fin.

    Ambient temp was low-mid 80's. Boat temps were a little up but not bad until the last run when I almost doubled the run to a 1.8 mile total before coming in.

    Motor 125 degrees
    Motor connectors 110 degrees
    ESC 112 degrees (forgot to check cap)
    Batteries 140 degrees
    Deans Connectors 178 degrees

    This is the warmest I've gotten the components, and I'm not comfortable with these temps. I will be replacing the Deans connectors with 5.5mm bullet connectors, but after seeing how cool the motor connectors are...I'm leaving those alone. I'm not too happy about battery temps. Maybe the 40X57/3 prop is too much for a longer run in the summer setting. I may remove it until things cool down this fall and play with some less aggressive props. I did hit 50mph again, with all the runs in the 49-50mph range.

    Repairs held up nicely but I had about an ounce of water in the hull. I think it's leaking around the stuffing tube again.

    I had very noticeable turning problems on my first run so I brought her in to check the rudder. I almost lost my turn fin, it was flopping around because the nylon breakaway bolt fell off and the 440 bolt was half way off....this is about the 3rd one of these nylon bolts I've lost on the fin or rudder. Although I locktite them with the Blue stuff...they seem to find a way to come loose. I will go back to the nylon zip ties.

    I thinking about cutting the front open and repairing the leading edge next.

    Crash
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  • longballlumber
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 3132

    #2
    For the Nylon fasteners and loctite... I don't think loctite will work on plastic, only on metallics...

    Try using a very small dab of silicone or Shoe Goo on the nylon stuff to keep it from backing off.

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    • jingalls007
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Mar 2009
      • 1015

      #3
      Also it's never a bad idea to upgrade to a larger diameter silicone tubing for cooling. I did it on my UL-1 and I don't have any issues with heat and I run 10 minutes at a time.

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      • detox
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jun 2008
        • 2318

        #4
        My allen screws in rudder came loose and I lost one. Be sure to tighten those well and use Blue Loctite.

        BTW your temps look OK to me. Those temps you are seeing now will rise higher in the Hot summer months.


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        Last edited by detox; 05-18-2009, 07:28 PM.

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        • Brushless55
          Creator
          • Oct 2008
          • 9488

          #5
          50mph! great job
          .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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          • nate
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Mar 2009
            • 1652

            #6
            Can you get a video next time Crash?...
            LMT
            LehnerMotorenTechnik.com

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            • bedrock
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 248

              #7
              Im a new ul-1 user running stock ESP and Grimracer 40-57/3 prop with 7.4 3600 20C batt's

              Can I use other larger capacity battries - say 4900mah 25C or higher - will this increase speed?

              will the ESC take the extra current?
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              Last edited by bedrock; 03-06-2011, 05:25 PM.

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              • Brushless55
                Creator
                • Oct 2008
                • 9488

                #8
                Originally posted by bedrock
                Im a new ul-1 user running stock ESP and Grimracer 40-57/3 prop with 7.4 3600 20C batt's

                Can I use other larger capacity battries - say 4900mah 25C or higher - will this increase speed?

                will the ESC take the extra current?

                Yes!
                I use 5200mah 30c packs and they work great..
                these boats like lots of amps from the packs
                .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                • Capt. Crash
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 301

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bedrock
                  Im a new ul-1 user running stock ESP and Grimracer 40-57/3 prop with 7.4 3600 20C batt's

                  Can I use other larger capacity battries - say 4900mah 25C or higher - will this increase speed?

                  will the ESC take the extra current?
                  Most definitely YES! Go with the bigger amps and C rating. Your boat will be faster and the batteries will run cooler because they don't have to work as hard.

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                  • donthavta
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 176

                    #10
                    upgraded flex shaft?

                    Originally posted by Capt. Crash
                    Well I got mine in the water this weekend and the conditions were perfect for hydros....just a little ripple on the otherwise smooth water.

                    I did 3 runs with 3 sets of packs....all runs were with the same set up.

                    Stock motor & ESC (basically bone stock setup except upgraded flex shaft and thrust bearing added)

                    Grim Racer 40X57/3 prop @ 1" strut depth

                    MaxAmp 5250 30c 2s packs

                    Stock turn fin.

                    Ambient temp was low-mid 80's. Boat temps were a little up but not bad until the last run when I almost doubled the run to a 1.8 mile total before coming in.

                    Motor 125 degrees
                    Motor connectors 110 degrees
                    ESC 112 degrees (forgot to check cap)
                    Batteries 140 degrees
                    Deans Connectors 178 degrees

                    This is the warmest I've gotten the components, and I'm not comfortable with these temps. I will be replacing the Deans connectors with 5.5mm bullet connectors, but after seeing how cool the motor connectors are...I'm leaving those alone. I'm not too happy about battery temps. Maybe the 40X57/3 prop is too much for a longer run in the summer setting. I may remove it until things cool down this fall and play with some less aggressive props. I did hit 50mph again, with all the runs in the 49-50mph range.

                    Repairs held up nicely but I had about an ounce of water in the hull. I think it's leaking around the stuffing tube again.

                    I had very noticeable turning problems on my first run so I brought her in to check the rudder. I almost lost my turn fin, it was flopping around because the nylon breakaway bolt fell off and the 440 bolt was half way off....this is about the 3rd one of these nylon bolts I've lost on the fin or rudder. Although I locktite them with the Blue stuff...they seem to find a way to come loose. I will go back to the nylon zip ties.

                    I thinking about cutting the front open and repairing the leading edge next.

                    Crash
                    upgraded flex shaft were do you get it and what is the difference from stock?

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                    • sailr
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 6927

                      #11
                      Steve at OSE sells them.

                      Product ID: ose-cable-ul1
                      OSE Upgraded AquaCraft UL-1 Cable
                      In Stock: 0 Details


                      OSE Flex Cable Assembly for the AquaCraft UL-1. Upgraded .150" Cable with 3/16" prop shaft. This is cut and ready to install in your boat. This upgraded cable is a higher quality with thicker wire strands and better aligned to the prop shaft then the stock unit. The prop shaft is only 2 1/4" long which reduces resistance and allows more strut adjustment. Which will help vibrations which will help reduce strut bearing wear. Just install it and go!

                      No soldering or cutting required!

                      This can also be used in any other boat requiring a .150 cable that measures 13 11/16" from tip to tip.

                      Price: $24.99


                      Unfortunately they are currently out of stock.

                      Originally posted by donthavta
                      upgraded flex shaft were do you get it and what is the difference from stock?
                      Mini Cat Racing USA
                      www.minicatracingusa.com

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                      • bedrock
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 248

                        #12
                        hey all

                        Took my Ul-1 out today it ripped - except I have cracked the area around the turn fin can wedge apart - can I repair this with some Arildite or simular? Or does this need re-glassing - the bolt holes are still ok not striped......

                        Looks like this model was a late one re-inforced in this area - I ran up a imbankment

                        thanks in advance

                        Bedrock
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                        Last edited by bedrock; 03-06-2011, 05:25 PM.

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                        • Brushless55
                          Creator
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9488

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bedrock
                          hey all

                          Took my Ul-1 out today it ripped - except I have cracked the area around the turn fin can wedge apart - can I repair this with some Arildite or simular? Or does this need re-glassing - the bolt holes are still ok not striped......

                          Looks like this model was a late one re-inforced in this area - I ran up a imbankment

                          thanks in advance

                          Bedrock

                          Sooo, you ran the boat ashore and cracked it around the turn fin?
                          .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                          • bedrock
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 248

                            #14
                            Yep

                            Got some glass today and will cover the fin area then put another Alluminum bracket covering the whole area then screw original one to this.

                            This boat was purchased only 2 weeks ago think it would be the later batch that has been made stronger......
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                            Last edited by bedrock; 03-06-2011, 05:25 PM.

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                            • Shooter
                              Team Mojo
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 2558

                              #15
                              Capt - 50mph is commendable with that set-up!! The most I've ever gotten was 44mph (100% stock with an X440/3), but the water was a little rough. I might pick-up a grim 40x57 prop this week. Last time I checked one out, the shape seemed different than my 440/3. They are darn close in diam and pitch though...

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