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  • alvinsmith75
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 635

    #31
    Originally posted by alvinsmith75
    Ran this morning with a x437/3. It was far too windy to give a fair comparison but I can say this. On GPS it ran 42.1 and I ran for 8 minutes and still had battery to burn. Even when it is calm the boat wobbles side to side in long straights. How should I adjust my rudder and turn fin to help?
    Thanks,
    Alvin
    Forgot to mention that the hottest thing after that long run with that prop was the motor at a mere 121degrees.

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    • Brushless55
      Creator
      • Oct 2008
      • 9488

      #32
      8 min, thats a good run..
      How many Mah did you put back after that run with the X437/3 ?
      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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      • alvinsmith75
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 635

        #33
        I don't know because I put the batteries on a storage charge on mu Duo2. They did show 15.2 volts each when I first put them on.

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        • alvinsmith75
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 635

          #34
          Ran again today. I lowered the turn fin a hair and the boat handled much better. I also tried an octura x642 prop. This prop was my favorite as far as handling. It cornered great and ran 46.5mph. I am seing a re-occuring problem. When I use these larger props the boat will shut down after about 3 minutes. Let it sit then it works again. Is this a protective shut down on the stock ESC? Has anyone else had this problem? Basically it seems as if I run a prop that runs the boat over 45mph this happens. If I use a prop that runs the boat under 45mph it works fine.

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          • line6
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 478

            #35
            My friend just did this with his UL last time out. we think that it is a thermal overload protection he pinched a water line and had no cooling at all. by the time we got it back in the motor was 150. but i cant recall the SC temp i don't think it was super hot but the do cool down faster than a motor.

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            • alvinsmith75
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 635

              #36
              Sorry I left out important info.
              Esc temp 114
              Capacitor temp 110
              Is it possible I have to much capacitor capacity.(Does that even make sense?)

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              • line6
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 478

                #37
                Maybe you are hitting The LVC

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                • detox
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 2318

                  #38
                  Check your 4mm esc/motor connectors. Those cheap Aquacraft connectors will heat up and become unsoldered which will cause the symptoms you are experiencing. I replaced those cheap connectors with Castle's beefier 5.5mm connectors.


                  ...

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                  • line6
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 478

                    #39
                    Good point detox. i replaced mine with the OSE 5.5 also just to be safe

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                    • alvinsmith75
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 635

                      #40
                      Definately not LVC. I will install 6.5mm connectors next(cause that's what I have). Or just solder the wires direct. Probably will go with the direct solder method. No need for connectors if i'm gonna keep this motor and ESC for a while. Can anyone think of a reason I should't do this?
                      Alvin

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                      • alvinsmith75
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 635

                        #41
                        Originally posted by detox
                        Check your 4mm esc/motor connectors. Those cheap Aquacraft connectors will heat up and become unsoldered which will cause the symptoms you are experiencing. I replaced those cheap connectors with Castle's beefier 5.5mm connectors.


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                        Detox yo are the man. I don't care what anyone else says about you. JJ I sliced the heat shrink on on one of the connectors and when I pulled the shrink, guess what? The connector came off. I just finished soldering the wires directly together. I will go out in a few with the x642 and try it again.
                        Thanks,
                        Alvin

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                        • detox
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 2318

                          #42
                          That just comes from experience...and board member LUCKYDUCK. There are LOTS OF OTHERS who have WAY more experience than I have. TEST TEST TEST

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                          • alvinsmith75
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 635

                            #43
                            Originally posted by alvinsmith75
                            Ran again today. I lowered the turn fin a hair and the boat handled much better. I also tried an octura x642 prop. This prop was my favorite as far as handling. It cornered great and ran 46.5mph. I am seing a re-occuring problem. When I use these larger props the boat will shut down after about 3 minutes. Let it sit then it works again. Is this a protective shut down on the stock ESC? Has anyone else had this problem? Basically it seems as if I run a prop that runs the boat over 45mph this happens. If I use a prop that runs the boat under 45mph it works fine.
                            Finally!!!! Something that makes sense. Same setup as a bove mentioned. Same water conditions. The only difference was soldering the esc wires directly to the motor Boat ran excellet and faster, 47.6mph. I ran for a whole 6min and 20 sec. then came in(not on LVC). The hottest thing was the motor and that was only 142 Degrees, esc 124 deg. I just put the lipo's on charge and they were at 14.9volts. Will try the y537/3 again next.
                            Thanks Detox,
                            Alvin

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                            • TCR
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 139

                              #44
                              Originally posted by alvinsmith75
                              Forgot to mention that the hottest thing after that long run with that prop was the motor at a mere 121degrees.
                              This should be obvious, but hasn't been mentioned. IMO, you need to move either the inlet or the outlet on your motor jacket as water will take the path of least resistance. On yours, once water fills the jacket, it will flow from one hole to the other(which are too close), you really should move your inlet or outlet to the other side of the jacket.
                              Tom

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                              • Capt. Crash
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 301

                                #45
                                The stock UL-1 water jacket was set up this way and it made no since to me either. Plus the inlet/outlet are on the side, not on top. However....I've left mine alone because I've got NO overheating problems and it don't leak! If it works...don't mess with it!

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