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The one sort of positive to come out of all this trouble is that Grim built a race boat style rtr. What that does is make it easier for the customer to follow the building style and transfer the items to a new hull if need be. Because lets face it, if someone tries to buy everything BUT the hull, it will add up to about the cost of the complete rtr boat.
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Steven Vaccaro
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Sorry Doozie, but I have to ask; do you own a UL-1? Another question, what are you doing to help the boating community or solve the UL-1 problem? Personally attacking Mike (Grim), and calling him names isn’t doing anyone any good. Would you say that too him face to face? How many of you guys knew Mike (Grim) before he became an part of Hobbico/Aquacraft?
I have known Mike for several years, years before the Aquacraft days. For those of you that don’t know Mike has been an accomplished nitro boat designer and racer for many, many years. He’s designed and raced boats (more than one) that have won the IMPBA US-1 award. This is the most prestigious award for IMPBA boaters. He has successfully run his own RC boating business out of his own home. He has the upmost respect for all boaters. As for the people that know him the way that I do, we have the upmost respect for him too. He is the kind of guy that would give you any piece or part at a race to keep you on the water and racing. Attacking his identity and his character is getting out of hand.
The design is solid. The manufacturing process and QC has left a little to be desired, and has been well documented. Mike doesn’t have 100% control of these items. He can offer suggestions, but ultimately the “higher ups” will do what they want to do. I am confident in saying they are trying to fix the problem, with out even talking to Mike. I am also confident in saying that Mike will make sure this happens. Not because of people spreading his name in the dirt, it’s because he loves RC boats.
Give it a rest guys….
If anyone wants suggestions on up grading or fixing there hulls let me know. I am willing to help solve the problem, not complain about it.
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Hey dude... my first inclination is to tell you to just stick it in your... but that wouldn't be very mature, so I'll refrain from taking that road.
No one was "ramming" anything... We announced a new product that was cool and in fact, fairly revolutionary to the market... We have no control over or insight into any quality issues... The two boats I got were fine, except for the turn fin area, which I then immediately gave a fix for. Why would we assume that the quality would be any worse than the SV was, which was acceptable for a RTR.
If you have a problem with the product, send it back or just don't buy one in the first place. No one forced you to do it, and there is NO way any of us could have forseen any kind of issues like you guys are experiencing. Your making this so personal toward the people out here is very childish and unbecoming and makes you sound like a 14 year-old on the RC truck boards who can't figure out why the steering arms on his Traxxas keep breaking when he rams the garage door at 25-mph...
And, by the way, I haven't said anything because I have no affiliation with AQ and never have, other than I know a few people there and was given inside info on a new product, and I've been paying attention to other things. My official affiliation, since making the official announcements for the UL1, is with Horizon Hobby and ProBoat, so it wouldn't be ethical for me to comment at this point on the quality or design of the AquaCraft stuff. Mike and AQ are the appropriate people to address that issue.
Bitch about the boat all you want, but keep us out of it. All we did was say it was here and it was cool, both of which are very true.Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
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Darin, Are you affliated or not? I see a couple We's in there.
....you were more of the help fixing than anyone. People should be thanking you for taking the time for real fixes. Good job.
I have not seen your name mentioned in this. Nobody is bashing you or Mike...well one did which was uncalled for.
"We announced a new product that was cool and in fact, fairly revolutionary to the market... We have no control over or insight into any quality issues... The two boats I got were fine."
"And, by the way, I haven't said anything because I have no affiliation with AQ and never have."
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The point of this thread was that Aquacraft have been very quiet on known issues. They are not stepping up to the plate and addressing the issues. As, has been stated many times Mike/Grim is not responsible for the manufacturing process. The UL-1 is a great design and with modifications also a sturdy hull. The point is that many newbies will run this boat with no prior inspection and may be very disappointed with the end result and FE boating. My 2 pennies.
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Note Grim I am still waiting for the call, but it is no big deal, as my UL-1 has all the mods that early buyers were recommending.
DouggieLast edited by Flying Scotsman; 04-01-2009, 01:32 PM.Comment
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very well put and just about sums this all up.....with that said I will say that Grim may have many many accomplishments in FE and rightfully so but I think his name is being somewhat tarnished here since his name is all over the advertising on a product that is being delivered sub-par with lousy QC and questionable customer service from retailers...if I was him I would be waking up my attorneysSPRINT CAT 40.........BOOGIMAN 25" MONO 8xl
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Big enough companies make you sign releases in case damage is done to your reputation or if you come up with an idea you leave all rights to them. If not then Mike should be pretty upset that his name has been slandered and reputation scarred.
Yep, at least one free local call would be in order for me.Comment
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I'll ask him this Saturday.Grand River Marine Modellers
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Best of luck to everyone.Comment
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Mr Darin, looking forward to the pro boat rammer which is surely to come. Keep an eye on the chinese field/factory workers and this will not happen to you! My services are always available if you need them.Comment
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Grim, I have had no phone call as you suggested. I will now point out the issues...a badly designed/manufactured cooling can....poor structural hull strength..a suspect ESC.
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Steven, the fact was he said I will give you a telephone call. Aquacraft have not answered to percieved problems and I have not received a call from Mike. The boat is still, I think sound after the mods, but running it will tell the truth.
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