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  • S_pisco7084
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 6

    #1

    I was told and ignored

    I read this on here and completely ignored it. Saw a lot of people broke their AQ flex cable instantly. Well mine broke and my 25$ prop is at the bottom of a lake.

    The OSE cable is in my cart now but I need a prop as well. I was running a grim racer 42x55 2 blade. I have no experience with props or what the numbers mean that being said I'd like to try a 3 blade prop... I see AQ has one that is 40x52 3 blade. Should this work for my application ??
  • S_pisco7084
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 6

    #2
    Note: for now I'm using cheap venom 25c batteries that I had laying around and they are getting pretty warm. 115-130 range so I'd like to bring those temps down as well

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    • kfxguy
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Oct 2013
      • 8746

      #3
      Originally posted by S_pisco7084
      Note: for now I'm using cheap venom 25c batteries that I had laying around and they are getting pretty warm. 115-130 range so I'd like to bring those temps down as well
      Never use anything than less than 50c in a boat (except something like a mini mono) and you'll be fine.
      32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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      • tlandauer
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2011
        • 5666

        #4
        Originally posted by S_pisco7084
        I read this on here and completely ignored it. Saw a lot of people broke their AQ flex cable instantly. Well mine broke and my 25$ prop is at the bottom of a lake.

        The OSE cable is in my cart now but I need a prop as well. I was running a grim racer 42x55 2 blade. I have no experience with props or what the numbers mean that being said I'd like to try a 3 blade prop... I see AQ has one that is 40x52 3 blade. Should this work for my application ??
        What boat do you have?
        That prop is good but will be slower than the 42x55, and, you need to get the prop balanced and thinned , the "raw" ones come out of the castings should not be run at all, I could not tell if the prop you lost was properly prepared or not since you did not say, but judging by the price you paid, i have a suspicion that it was a "raw" prop.
        That is very important! Running an unbalanced prop would not give you good performance and in addition it will damage your drive line components!
        Too many boats, not enough time...

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        • Doby
          KANADA RULES!
          • Apr 2007
          • 7280

          #5
          Originally posted by kfxguy
          Never use anything than less than 50c in a boat (except something like a mini mono) and you'll be fine.
          Wow...guess my 25C Turnigys that I run in all my Motley Crew are no good.

          Lets try and be realistic here....
          Grand River Marine Modellers
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          • tlandauer
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2011
            • 5666

            #6
            Originally posted by tlandauer
            What boat do you have?
            That prop is good but will be slower than the 42x55, and, you need to get the prop balanced and thinned , the "raw" ones come out of the castings should not be run at all, I could not tell if the prop you lost was properly prepared or not since you did not say, but judging by the price you paid, i have a suspicion that it was a "raw" prop.
            That is very important! Running an unbalanced prop would not give you good performance and in addition it will damage your drive line components!
            Never mind, the Forum is half working and I could not back up my page for some reason.
            Too many boats, not enough time...

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            • S_pisco7084
              Junior Member
              • Aug 2014
              • 6

              #7
              Originally posted by tlandauer
              What boat do you have?
              That prop is good but will be slower than the 42x55, and, you need to get the prop balanced and thinned , the "raw" ones come out of the castings should not be run at all, I could not tell if the prop you lost was properly prepared or not since you did not say, but judging by the price you paid, i have a suspicion that it was a "raw" prop.
              That is very important! Running an unbalanced prop would not give you good performance and in addition it will damage your drive line components!
              I'm running the lucas oil. The prop was "raw" out of the box and on to the boat. I had intentions of balancing it myself sometime soon. This is probably my 6-7th run with the boat.
              I'd like to get the 3 blade honestly because I think they look cooler. Can you maybe point me in the direction of a pre balanced and sharpened prop ?

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              • S_pisco7084
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 6

                #8
                Something like this ??

                http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...octsb-y537%2F3

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                • tlandauer
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 5666

                  #9
                  The closest to the one you originally wanted is this one: http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...octsb-x440%2F3
                  They are both 40 mm in dia. and the pitch is similar.
                  Too many boats, not enough time...

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                  • kfxguy
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 8746

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Doby
                    Wow...guess my 25C Turnigys that I run in all my Motley Crew are no good.

                    Lets try and be realistic here....
                    Wow! Maybe your just lucky or way under propped. Good for you! But I'm stating what my rule of thumb is. I've seen way too many issues from running too weak of a battery....your experienced. ...maybe the next guy isnt. I would never recommend nor say that a 25c battery is good in a boat that size unless you never push it hard at all. You know this too so I'm not sure why you'd throw something out there like that. A boat draws a good bit more current than a car or truck so why would you act like it's just generally ok? It's always better to have a battery that's more than up to the task than one that's just borderline and I think you know that.....so that's being realistic for you.
                    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                    • 4THLAKERC
                      Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 46

                      #11
                      on my the maiden voyage of my mc i hit somthing in water (see video on vids and pics or youtube)and lost a balanced and shrpnd prop i got from dosbota on this site $50 made me sick.im running a raw grm racr 42x55 prop now and realizing y my speed isnt there but gunshy about losing another $50 prop and doing it myself seems complicated. The stock plastic actully performs better than the raw. my plan is to send prop raw prop to have it done. As far as batts im shocked those battts work im running two 7.4 6000 80s and wish i had more

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                      • S_pisco7084
                        Junior Member
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 6

                        #12
                        Originally posted by tlandauer
                        The closest to the one you originally wanted is this one: http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...octsb-x440%2F3
                        They are both 40 mm in dia. and the pitch is similar.

                        Thank you sir. I'll give that one a try. Cheaper than I expected as well.

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                        • S_pisco7084
                          Junior Member
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 6

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kfxguy
                          Wow! Maybe your just lucky or way under propped. Good for you! But I'm stating what my rule of thumb is. I've seen way too many issues from running too weak of a battery....your experienced. ...maybe the next guy isnt. I would never recommend nor say that a 25c battery is good in a boat that size unless you never push it hard at all. You know this too so I'm not sure why you'd throw something out there like that. A boat draws a good bit more current than a car or truck so why would you act like it's just generally ok? It's always better to have a battery that's more than up to the task than one that's just borderline and I think you know that.....so that's being realistic for you.
                          My venom 5000mah 25c batts were used in my 4x4 truck and must have at least 50 if not more runs through them. I put them in my boat until I can buy some nicer ones and they are working fine except for the fact they are getting pretty warm.

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                          • fusion_m8
                            Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 53

                            #14
                            Hopefully your OSE cable is the correct length. I had a bit of drama with mine being around half inch too long and had to cut it with a dremel. Not a big deal if you already have a dremel, but I didn't have one and had to spend $40 getting a dremel and another $8 for the rotary cutting wheel.

                            I am using Zippy Flightmax 6000mah 50c hardpacks and despite some of the bad reviews Zippys have been getting, I've found that they perform as good as Gens Ace 5000mah 50c packs which seem have a stellar reputation.

                            As for the prop, I'm using VXP X445 1.4p CNC prop, again lots of so called racers on this site despise CNC props, but I've found these work extremely well with the Lucas Oil and Miss Geico. I've just purchased a VXP V4214/2 1.6p detongued, S&B prop and can't wait to see if the detonguing and higher pitch will give me more top end speed without overheating the electrics.

                            Good luck and enjoy the hobby!

                            FWIW: Gens Ace is having a 50% off sale on their battery packs until 30th Sept 2014.
                            Last edited by fusion_m8; 09-17-2014, 02:51 AM.

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                            • SD Eracer
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 262

                              #15
                              Originally posted by fusion_m8
                              Hopefully your OSE cable is the correct length. I had a bit of drama with mine being around half inch too long and had to cut it with a dremel.
                              I had the opposite experience. My OSE flexshaft for my Lucas Oil seemed to be about 1/4" too short. So just in case, I purchased an Octura Long coupler which made up the difference. I'm happy I did, because it lowered the rather large coupler to stuffing tube gap that's on the factory setup.

                              I have to say, when I ran my Lucas Oil for the first time (coming from a Wildcat EP), I wasn't completely awed by the speed difference. I was faster and everything, but it didn't really give me that "jolt" I thought I would feel. I bought a UL-1 at the same time which was shockingly fast for me in comparison.

                              However, after my stock flexshaft broke, I purchased a OSE Flexshaft and a Grimracer metal proper (balanced & sharpened). The difference was far more significant than I expected, the boat is absolutely flying now, it feels almost as fast as my stock UL-1!

                              Also, I noticed my mAh cosumption has decreased as well as my temps. I though my boat would use more power and heat up more with a metal prop, but the opposite has happened. I've gained 30 seconds on my runs and dropped almost 7 degrees on my motor and ESC.

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