why is aquacraft not picking up there game?

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  • montymike
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 774

    #1

    why is aquacraft not picking up there game?

    I know that Mike is not with aquacraft anymore but they need to step up there game like proboat or be left behind in the r.t.r. market. What you all think?
  • shua
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 479

    #2
    I strongly agree. Proboat is several versions ahead on most of their fleet now and offering new self righting/ larger crafts. Not to mention that they (Proboat) have more new items in the works, coming soon!

    Hello Aquacraft!?!

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    • JimClark
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 5907

      #3
      Just because they have not released anything lately doesn't mean they are not working on something
      "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
      Billy Graham

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      • T.S.Davis
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2009
        • 6221

        #4
        I doubt they're working on anything. It's possible I suppose. I don't know anyone on the inside anymore.

        AQ let the talent that put them on the map slip through their fingers. AQ is owned by Great Planes. GP was unable to retain Mike Z (Grimracer). Totally just my understanding but it basically came down to Mike needing a change and corporate insisting "this is how we do it". They'll be hard pressed to find anyone with Mike's talent. Quite frankly......I don't think I know anyone with Mike's skill set that also has as much passion for modelling. He's not just a boat guy either. Modelling is an art form to him. Then if they do find someone they'll need that guy to be willing to join them on their terms. I'm not sure that's possible.

        Sad really. AQ and Grimm have done a lot for the hobby and racing in my opinion. I don't know where they're going. Maybe someone will chime in that knows more than I do.
        Noisy person

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        • T.S.Davis
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Oct 2009
          • 6221

          #5
          Correction.......I think it's Hobbico that owns AQ.
          Noisy person

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          • nichismo
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2015
            • 393

            #6
            or maybe the RTR crowd needs to step THEIR game up and start building boats themselves....

            the VS1 is a great kit to begin with.....

            Besides, the UL-1 has made huge contributions to the hobby that in my opinion, RTRs normally dont .
            BIG BOY HYDROPLANES----My first RC boat and build project to boot: (and more content in my profile gallery!) ---- http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...proposed-setup

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            • montymike
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 774

              #7
              Vs1?

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              • ray schrauwen
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 9471

                #8
                Well if they ever discontinue their gold motors it should send a tizzy fit all through the spec racing class, IF it ever happens. I never liked their hulls, hate the box construction but, to each their own...
                Nortavlag Bulc

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                • montymike
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 774

                  #9
                  Originally posted by nichismo
                  or maybe the RTR crowd needs to step THEIR game up and start building boats themselves....

                  the VS1 is a great kit to begin with.....

                  Besides, the UL-1 has made huge contributions to the hobby that in my opinion, RTRs normally dont .
                  Looked this boat up on tower sight. Have sport hydros not tunnels.

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                  • montymike
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 774

                    #10
                    We need all the competition we can get...

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                    • SD Eracer
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 262

                      #11
                      I was the greatest Aquacraft fan, love my Lucas Oil except for the box construction prevents easy repairs and the stock hull cracked way too easily at unmodified speeds.

                      The Revolt 30 is probably the most loved boat in my local pond.

                      But going on their site, all you see are the same old boats from as far back as 2011 like the UL-1. Great boat, have one myself, but how about something new? Last new FE boat was the Lucas Oil, nothing since then.

                      However, Aquacraft still supplies quick, quality RTR boats in the $300 range, making them attainable to those who are still curious but haven't fully bought into the RC boating scene. Proboats are more expensive, at $400 and $500 for their newest boat. I would not have moved up to building my own boats without having the "seat time" on my Lucas Oil, Revolt 30 and UL-1.

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                      • T.S.Davis
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6221

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ray schrauwen
                        Well if they ever discontinue their gold motors it should send a tizzy fit all through the spec racing class, IF it ever happens. I never liked their hulls, hate the box construction but, to each their own...
                        Sadly there really will come a point that "limited" will be replaced by something else. Today, tomorrow, next season? I don't have a clue. Proboat doesn't give a rip about limited racing and Aquacraft doesn't have anyone in house that even knows what that is anymore. That's my impression by the way. It's not company line from either Proboat or AQ.

                        It's going to take some careful consideration and pretty good timing to get that next phase right. The problem will be the same too. Commit to a any one motor or even a handful of them and we're at their mercy. If they decide that they can save a few bucks on shellac or ABEC1 bearings we get what we get. The motors change. We (racers) don't and never will be able to dictate manufacturers specifications. Racers make up such an itty bitty percentage of the market that we have little influence. Decisions are made based on math and not on racer desires.

                        We've seen this from multiple manufacturers that we were committed too thus far. They all make changes.

                        Back in the 700 brushed motor days, Mabuchi produced a batch of special motors for a vendor that bought a bunch of them. That motor suddenly was the only motor to have. Your existing stuff was obsolete. Screwed up the works.

                        Some AQ changes were so subtle that they only showed up if you were already close to the edge.

                        Proboat actually changed motor suppliers. Dumped their whole line of motors. Those were the best spec motors yet. They didn't check with us. haha Why would they though? We (racers again) don't buy enough product to influence their bottom line.

                        IMPBA D4 might be on the right path but it's going to take a larger sampling (guessing here) to sell everyone on the idea. It would be stellar if we could get NAMBA and IMPBA to buy a pallet each of the 3630 1950 kv that D4 runs. Or something like it. Then sell them to members only for the next 5 years or so.

                        I so wish I had a crystal ball to predict where these manufacturers were going.
                        Noisy person

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                        • montymike
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 774

                          #13
                          To bad,Racing, like cars, boats , planes brings out the best innovation.

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                          • 4343
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 141

                            #14
                            mike is not with aquacraft anymore? when did he leave?

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                            • 4343
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 141

                              #15
                              is the lucas oil better than the new geico 29 v3? faster? more stable?

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