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  • siberianhusky
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Dec 2009
    • 2184

    #1

    Any VS-1 owners?

    Anybody willing to post some pics of of the radio box conversion?
    Looking for some options. Going to pick one up in a couple of hours, found a great deal on a NIB one locally.
    This is what I want a Stiletto/Impulse/Geico/Mystic setup for. Also need a conversion for a K&B lower I have kickin' around.
    Thanks for the pics.
    If my boats upside down then who owns the one I thought I was driving the last two laps?
  • properchopper
    rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
    • Apr 2007
    • 6953

    #2
    Mark, I have a complete build thread here, but I can't find it. Here's some pictures that may help. I talked to Mike Z before the build and he advised me to get the pivot closer to the front so I notched the transom since my Hyperformance Angle Drive was really long. Probably not necessary with other outdrives. And yes, having a belt sander is an absolutely worthwhile investment. Also having an ample supply of chilled malt beveridges on hand helps to calm the nerves during the rather intricate moments of this build. Good luck !!

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    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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    • properchopper
      rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
      • Apr 2007
      • 6953

      #3
      More : Some use the wire actuating/servo in front; I prefer 4-40 rods & servo in back for more positive servo engagement. Makes stuffing the servo & speed control in the confined space in back tricky. This is an early version with an SV 27 SC & motor; later version had a UL-1 speedy & motor for spec class racing.



      ( It didn't flip at the end of the vid, I was just parking it )
      Attached Files
      2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
      2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
      '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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      • Chilli
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jan 2008
        • 3067

        #4
        I went with a one piece radio box. Many add to the the existing radio box and run it all all the way to the transom. I left a little perch for the speed controller in the back and run the servo in the front.

        Use 1/8 inch ply for the box. At first I thought it would add unecessary weight. As it turns out it hasnt affected speed on bit. The boat was dead in the water and got T-boned by a nitro boat a few weeks ago. The radio box was only slightly damaged. If I would of used a thinner ply the boat might of been distroyed.
        Attached Files
        Mike Chirillo
        www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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        • lars_01
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 112

          #5
          It´s not a VS-1 but this is what i did to convert my Cobra tunnel:cobra tunnel.jpgS4200136.jpgS4200137.jpgS4200138.jpgS4200139.jpg
          I´m going to add some flake and fireorange candy to it!
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          • Stinger9D9
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 355

            #6
            Nice photos guys! I have been cursing my TS2 for a few years now - I finally got it to dive "less" in the corners by moving everything around in it, now it just hops all the way through them instead.

            I've been tossing around the idea of getting a VS1 for a while now - sport running only, no racing - and I wanted something that corners well. As I wouldn't be racing, good flat cornering is more important to me than flat out straight line speed.

            For that scenario, is would the VS1 suit my needs better than the TS3? I think it would, but I haven't heard many comparisons of the 2 hulls in FE trim.

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            • properchopper
              rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
              • Apr 2007
              • 6953

              #7
              Originally posted by Stinger9D9
              Nice photos guys! I have been cursing my TS2 for a few years now - I finally got it to dive "less" in the corners by moving everything around in it, now it just hops all the way through them instead.

              I've been tossing around the idea of getting a VS1 for a while now - sport running only, no racing - and I wanted something that corners well. As I wouldn't be racing, good flat cornering is more important to me than flat out straight line speed.

              For that scenario, is would the VS1 suit my needs better than the TS3? I think it would, but I haven't heard many comparisons of the 2 hulls in FE trim.
              I raced a TS-2 with AQ 1500 motor & SC in 2008. Full throttle in the turns without that crazy bouncing but it took lots of trial & error to tune it out, but the boat was pretty sluggish - at the time there were only TS-2's to compete with so it did pretty well ; took class win in 2008 at WW IV in AZ with that boat. VS-1's are faster & handle better, the TS-3's might be the best all-around boat, but the go-to boat for all-out performance is Mike L.'s (cybercrxt) ML295 here on the forums.
              I have a vid of the TS-2 behaving but the file is too big to upload here, I'll see if I can work on it.
              2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
              2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
              '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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              • Stinger9D9
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 355

                #8
                Well with Tower having their $10 discount, and discounted international shipping...AND the Canadian dollar being worth 5% more (for effectively another 5% discount) I pulled the trigger and ordered up a VS1. (The shipping discount ended - for the time being - today)

                I don't doubt that the TS3 is a good hull, but I've just seen so many threads with VS1 conversions that worked out well, I couldn't resist. The VS1 is wider, shorter (height), not as long which all indicate turning stability to me.

                I'll let someone else work out the best way to convert a TS3 and instead go with the proven route for the time being.

                More photos (particularly for siberianhusky - as I am hijacking his thread here) would be great. Thanks everyone!

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                • egneg
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 4664

                  #9
                  I have a VS-1 with a K&B lower. It runs about 50 mph with a 8XL and a Prather 215. I think I got the conversion at OSE but am not sure. Here is a pic of the radio box. With the K&B a 215 is about the all that will fit.

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                  IMPBA 20481S D-12

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                  • siberianhusky
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 2184

                    #10
                    I remember the for sale thread for the HD scheme boat!
                    I did my hotshot with the servo up front esc in the back.
                    Think this one I'll do the servo in the back, think I'll be able to get a tighter setup that way.
                    Going to wait until I've got the motor mounted before I cut into it, get a ball park idea of where I need to put stuff to get it to balance, since it's a conversion I'd like to keep the surgery to a minimum, if I don't need to use the existing radio box I'll just build on behind it, pack it full of foam for floatation.
                    Thanks for all the pics, some sweet boats out there!
                    Saw some really nice gas stuff when I picked this up, Gary is planning to head down to the big straight away race this fall, wants to crack 100mph with one of his custom carbon fiber riggers. Also checked out a fresh from the mould new design carbon cat he's working on, 600 hours into design and mould building! This was the first one from the mould.
                    Lives in Whitby, might know Eboat, doesn't know Wparsons. He runs out of the Aliston club.
                    Thanks again for the help.
                    If my boats upside down then who owns the one I thought I was driving the last two laps?

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                    • Stinger9D9
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 355

                      #11
                      Originally posted by properchopper
                      Mark, I have a complete build thread here, but I can't find it. Here's some pictures that may help. I talked to Mike Z before the build and he advised me to get the pivot closer to the front so I notched the transom since my Hyperformance Angle Drive was really long. Probably not necessary with other outdrives. And yes, having a belt sander is an absolutely worthwhile investment. Also having an ample supply of chilled malt beveridges on hand helps to calm the nerves during the rather intricate moments of this build. Good luck !!
                      I found the build thread for your VS-1 (with some help from google):
                      http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...r-s-VS-1-build

                      I like the way you notched the transom to get the pin further ahead of the back of the sponsons. I know you did it because the Angle Drive was so long, but do you think it would also help when running a regular REK lower? The reason I ask is because the manual says the VS-1 likes understeering (having the pivot ahead of the transom) and I'd like to know if it would be worth it.

                      If it really does help handling that much, it should make most outboards perform better, and if I'm going to do some major cutting like that, now would be the time for me to do it (right at the outset of my build).

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                      • properchopper
                        rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 6953

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Stinger9D9
                        I found the build thread for your VS-1 (with some help from google):
                        http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...r-s-VS-1-build

                        I like the way you notched the transom to get the pin further ahead of the back of the sponsons. I know you did it because the Angle Drive was so long, but do you think it would also help when running a regular REK lower? The reason I ask is because the manual says the VS-1 likes understeering (having the pivot ahead of the transom) and I'd like to know if it would be worth it.

                        If it really does help handling that much, it should make most outboards perform better, and if I'm going to do some major cutting like that, now would be the time for me to do it (right at the outset of my build).
                        I've raced against several VS-1's ; some with the REK and some with the bullet drive ; both are shorter than the angle drive, none of them had the recessed transom and they turned really well.
                        2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                        2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                        '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                        • Jacked1
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 772

                          #13
                          Anyone do this with a DPI 3.5 tunnel? I need to!
                          Fleet: 55" Quad inline T600 Cigarette boat, Twin Mean Machine, Twin T600 47" mystery mono, 4082 Surge Crusher, 1717 8s Genesis, 4074 Villain, "mini mono", 52" Bonzi, Prather Funcruiser, 2 DPI 3.5cc tunnels, 5' Styrofoam recover barge

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                          • HTVboats
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 802

                            #14
                            The VS-1 is a good hull and was designed for the OS stock/sport .21 outboard and is marginal as a mod setup. The TS-3 was designed for mod .21 motors and with a 4S 1800 or 2030KV motor which puts out more power than the OS you might want to go with a TS-3. Will stay upright a little more often. I have rigged and run a Lynx, a Shaman, a Vision and a TS-3 and they all run well enough to compete in racing and do well. I know your just looking for a sport runner but the handling qualities that make a good race boat make an excellent sport boat.
                            Mic

                            Mic Halbrehder
                            IMPBA 8656
                            NAMBA 1414

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                            • ron1950
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 3024

                              #15
                              a vs-1 won at the nats this year....wasent the fastest by far but it finished all three heats in either first or second place......fastest doesent always win the race just ask the turtle and the hair lol.....here is a typical example....as the white boat wins this heat.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozJdVFi6PV8
                              MY RETIREMENT PLAN?????.....POWERBALL
                              74 vintage kirby clasic hydro, pursuit mono, mg, 47'' mono, popeye hydro...

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