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  • Raydee
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • May 2007
    • 1603

    #1

    Respirator for prop work

    My old respirator that I used to paint boat and for prop work is getting a bit old so I am looking for new one. What do you guys think of this one with the filters?

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IF7RBS4...v_ov_lig_dp_it

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009POHH94...v_ov_lig_dp_it
    Team Liquid Dash
  • ray schrauwen
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 9438

    #2
    I use a similar one. My mask needs new filters.
    Nortavlag Bulc

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    • Stillwet
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2018
      • 241

      #3
      how many people do their work under water?
      i know eventually you have to handle it on dry land.
      i use a shallow bowl of water for a few strokes and any burrs and the masks i use were from Home Pimple and HF and filters from local body shop. i usually do this outside with my misters on.

      Mask # N95
      Beryllium and
      compounds (as Be)



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      Will any hardware store dust mask do? Do I need one of those "chemical warfare" gas mask things? I'm only working with BeCu on a very occasional basis but everything I read says to treat it like the worst kind of poison.

      Raydee you'll live forever. i'd double check on the Cartridge filter though.
      Last edited by Stillwet; 08-19-2018, 05:53 PM. Reason: so much information

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      • 30nitro
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2018
        • 330

        #4
        I have always done all my prop work..(Berylium) under water... According to a friend who is a metalurgic...Berylium is very toxic when inhaled as a dust...not so much as a solid....poses no real threat when wet sanded...as long as you have no open wounds on your fingers to allow absorption.....

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        • Hawcer
          Member
          • Oct 2018
          • 58

          #5
          Originally posted by Stillwet
          how many people do their work under water?
          i know eventually you have to handle it on dry land.
          i use a shallow bowl of water for a few strokes and any burrs and the masks i use were from Home Pimple and HF and filters from local body shop. i usually do this outside with my misters on.



          Mask # N95
          Beryllium and
          compounds (as Be)



          Explore and download in-depth case studies, insightful white papers, detailed product information, and technical documents from Materion's advanced materials experts.

          Will any hardware store dust mask do? Do I need one of those "chemical warfare" gas mask things? I'm only working with BeCu on a very occasional basis but everything I read says to treat it like the worst kind of poison.

          Raydee you'll live forever. i'd double check on the Cartridge filter though.
          What I was thinking. A shop sink or wash pan. I’ve done my fair share of wet sanding and polishing firearms. Doing it right in a sink is less messy than on a bench.

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          • Johnc
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2015
            • 199

            #6
            No open wounds on hands please (11 days in hospital, 6 in ICU on a breathing machine, beryllium/copper poisoning) I only wet sanded, but in doing so got a few little cuts (enough to bleed a bit, not much but enough). Lung Doctor said it infected my lungs through the blood stream. Was in the hospital less than 6hrs after finishing for the night not being able to breath. He also said, just like lead poisoning, it never leaves your body. Although you can build up a tolerance, just takes longer for your lungs to start failing.

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            • Hawcer
              Member
              • Oct 2018
              • 58

              #7
              Originally posted by Johnc
              No open wounds on hands please (11 days in hospital, 6 in ICU on a breathing machine, beryllium/copper poisoning) I only wet sanded, but in doing so got a few little cuts (enough to bleed a bit, not much but enough). Lung Doctor said it infected my lungs through the blood stream. Was in the hospital less than 6hrs after finishing for the night not being able to breath. He also said, just like lead poisoning, it never leaves your body. Although you can build up a tolerance, just takes longer for your lungs to start failing.
              That’s enough info to stop me. I can’t go a day without taking skin off my hands. Heck, the last time I had my boat out, I sliced my palm open on the turn fin when wiping down the hull when packing up for the day.

              I’ll have to get out the welding gloves and scuba gear when prepping poisonous props....or just pay someone else to do it.

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              • fweasel
                master of some
                • Jul 2016
                • 4311

                #8
                Originally posted by Hawcer
                .or just pay someone else to do it.
                That's where I'm at. I've got lung issues to begin with, but health aside, the work the pros do is no where near what I could ever do myself and the price is well worth it when you consider the time involved.
                Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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                • Fluid
                  Fast and Furious
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 7990

                  #9
                  I spoke with a major supplier of berylliun copper years ago at a trade show. They told me that the major health problem is the intake of copper, not so much beryllium. I always use a good respirator, not the worthless paper paint masks. Those do not form a seal against the face and allow plenty of contaminants into the lungs. Spend an extra $20 and invest in a healthy future rather than save $18 and experience lung problems.

                  Example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00079FOK0..._oq-UBbPTRZYXW


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                  • Hawcer
                    Member
                    • Oct 2018
                    • 58

                    #10
                    Originally posted by fweasel
                    That's where I'm at. I've got lung issues to begin with, but health aside, the work the pros do is no where near what I could ever do myself and the price is well worth it when you consider the time involved.
                    Yep. I just ordered a prepped and ready prop from OSE. About $50. Seems expensive up front until you break it down. Prop is roughly $20, so $30 for labor and supplies to do the work.

                    That’s a bargain. I sharpened and balanced my stock stainless prop. That job isn’t something I’d like to do for $30.

                    I usually prefer to do any work needed myself. It doesn’t matter what the task is. But I’m learning, someone does this stuff as a profession, it’s their job. Just as I have my own profession and it’s my job. I need work to get payed, they need work to get payed....so I’m more willing now to let someone else do work they are probably better and more efficient at than I am.

                    When all of the prop preppers are gone....then what?

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                    • dasboata
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 3152

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Hawcer
                      Yep. I just ordered a prepped and ready prop from OSE. About $50. Seems expensive up front until you break it down. Prop is roughly $20, so $30 for labor and supplies to do the work.

                      That’s a bargain. I sharpened and balanced my stock stainless prop. That job isn’t something I’d like to do for $30.

                      I usually prefer to do any work needed myself. It doesn’t matter what the task is. But I’m learning, someone does this stuff as a profession, it’s their job. Just as I have my own profession and it’s my job. I need work to get payed, they need work to get payed....so I’m more willing now to let someone else do work they are probably better and more efficient at than I am.

                      When all of the prop preppers are gone....then what?
                      I have no plans of Dying LOL,, I would love to teach my trade to a worthy kid !!!

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                      • Hawcer
                        Member
                        • Oct 2018
                        • 58

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dasboata
                        I have no plans of Dying LOL,, I would love to teach my trade to a worthy kid !!!
                        I've heard rave reviews on your prop work.
                        Before you hang it up and retire. maybe make a vid series and put em on Patreon or youtube. make some extra $$ for your knowledge. It's not the same as hands on training, but it could be a good start for some folks.

                        Finding a kid these days willing to learn a trade is like trying to win the lottery. but it is possible.

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                        • dasboata
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 3152

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hawcer
                          I've heard rave reviews on your prop work.
                          Before you hang it up and retire. maybe make a vid series and put em on Patreon or youtube. make some extra $$ for your knowledge. It's not the same as hands on training, but it could be a good start for some folks.

                          Finding a kid these days willing to learn a trade is like trying to win the lottery. but it is possible.
                          I will never retire unless my health will not let me do props any more thanks man

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                          • T.S.Davis
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 6228

                            #14
                            Too bad we don't live closer Chris. My kid is a boating super freak.
                            Noisy person

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                            • dasboata
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 3152

                              #15
                              Originally posted by T.S.Davis
                              Too bad we don't live closer Chris. My kid is a boating super freak.
                              To Bad is correct Terry,,, I think I have a pretty safe set up also !!! My grandson was by my side boating and running cars till he discovered girls so good luck with that

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