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  • Kaotic
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 447

    #1

    Prop balancers - not accurate

    I've been using the big top flite balancer and although I've read a lot of mixed reviews on it I find it to be very accurate. The prop will sit there forever it seems swinging till it finally comes to a stop which to me means it's very touchy and I would think is a good thing. I just bought the one from OSE and my dad has the similar one from Kintec and these things you can take an octura prop right from the package (unbalanced of course) put them on the balancer and basically get them to stop where ever you want them too. How are guys balancing there props with these, Am I not setting it up right??

    Thanks,

    Jeff
    Michigan Fast Electric SAW Club
    Revolt - 76.9mph...Building a DF35- Project Mono
  • Fluid
    Fast and Furious
    • Apr 2007
    • 8011

    #2
    The real issue is, how perfect does the prop balance have to be? In reality the biggest cause of driveline vibration is the prop blades hitting the water twice each revolution. This event causes a BIG amount of vibration, so a small amount of prop imbalance is insignificant.

    This doesn't mean that prop balance is not important, only that "perfect" balance is not required. I have personally checked the balance of several props used to set SAW records of over 110 mph and they were close but NOT perfect.


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    • Kaotic
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 447

      #3
      Originally posted by Fluid
      The real issue is, how perfect does the prop balance have to be? In reality the biggest cause of driveline vibration is the prop blades hitting the water twice each revolution. This event causes a BIG amount of vibration, so a small amount of prop imbalance is insignificant.

      This doesn't mean that prop balance is not important, only that "perfect" balance is not required. I have personally checked the balance of several props used to set SAW records of over 110 mph and they were close but NOT perfect.


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      Ok that makes me feel better. I'm a perfectionist and I spend hours getting my props to be dead on balanced, which can be frustrating at times. Maybe now knowing that it's not terribly important to have them dead on I can spend more time driving my boat!

      Thanks!
      Michigan Fast Electric SAW Club
      Revolt - 76.9mph...Building a DF35- Project Mono

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      • SweetAccord
        Speed Passion
        • Oct 2007
        • 1302

        #4
        There is an easy way to balance props that I've been using. Look for the new thread today.

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        • NativePaul
          Greased Weasel
          • Feb 2008
          • 2761

          #5
          I used a top flight balancer for a while and found that the small Chinese one that I got to put in my travelling bag to be better, much better when it was new, but just better now the chrome plating has worn off the neodymium magnets. The best one I have used is a wooden one a buddy made himself where he glued a piece of glass over the magnets, I really must buy a box of microscope slides and do the same to my little Chinese one.
          Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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          • SweetAccord
            Speed Passion
            • Oct 2007
            • 1302

            #6
            The one OSE sells, the orange one, http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=ose-80310 beats any of the Grim Racer or Top flight balancers. I know, I have them all. The top flight is not accurate and unbalanced as the cones are way off. The Grim is ok, but not sensitive enough. The OSE one is extremely accurate.

            I actually make the points like needles to make them sharper to make the balancer more sensitive. I also take small razor blades and place them over the magnets to create a very smooth surface for the needle shaft to spin on. When I'm really picky I will even put lube on the points to reduce friction to get the balancer as accurate and even more sensitive. Insane? Yes. Necessary? Probably not. I know this is extreme but I'm all about accuracy.

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            • kevinpratt823
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Aug 2012
              • 1361

              #7
              I did similar with the orange one, put shaft in a drill and got the tips sharper with some sandpaper, and I glued some little peices of lexan over the magnets. Too bad it won't support larger props though.....

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              Last edited by kevinpratt823; 10-21-2014, 03:55 PM.
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              • dasboata
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Dec 2010
                • 3152

                #8
                not fond about any balancer using the silver magnets AS it seems to hold the shaft to tight, I have polished up the rare earth magnet and it does work better I also have use .015 mylar on the face of the magnets as they do chip easy I use Seebold balancers in my opinion are the best, I have had problems with really sharp points as they fall into the grain of the magnet and ride up or down , I just smothed the tip a bit and it worked better the tips do wear out and there are many ways of doing this with good results
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                • T.S.Davis
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 6220

                  #9
                  Chris, any idea where to get one of those. That's pretty sweet.

                  I've been using a Zero G for years and it's shot. Magnets are worn and so are the bits.
                  Noisy person

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                  • T.S.Davis
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6220

                    #10
                    Never mind. Found Steve already.
                    Noisy person

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                    • dasboata
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 3152

                      #11
                      Originally posted by T.S.Davis
                      Never mind. Found Steve already.
                      There you go,, I just sent him a text,, please mention I sent you his way thanks chris

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                      • kfxguy
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 8746

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dasboata
                        not fond about any balancer using the silver magnets AS it seems to hold the shaft to tight, I have polished up the rare earth magnet and it does work better I also have use .015 mylar on the face of the magnets as they do chip easy I use Seebold balancers in my opinion are the best, I have had problems with really sharp points as they fall into the grain of the magnet and ride up or down , I just smothed the tip a bit and it worked better the tips do wear out and there are many ways of doing this with good results
                        Now that is a nice balancer!
                        32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                        • dasboata
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 3152

                          #13
                          he has got 1 3/16 left I just got off the phone with him

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                          • SweetAccord
                            Speed Passion
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 1302

                            #14
                            kevinpratt823



                            I did similar with the orange one, put shaft in a drill and got the tips sharper with some sandpaper, and I glued some little peices of lean over the magnets. Too bad it won't support larger props though.....

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                            My private off road rc track





                            Place strong magnets on the back of the existing ones and it will.

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                            • dasboata
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 3152

                              #15
                              Originally posted by kevinpratt823
                              I did similar with the orange one, put shaft in a drill and got the tips sharper with some sandpaper, and I glued some little peices of lean over the magnets. Too bad it won't support larger props though.....

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                              what is lean ???

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