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  • chipgibbs
    CG3
    • Aug 2012
    • 164

    #1

    4s Cheetah prop options

    I recently finished a FighterCat Cheetah and have had it in the water once.
    The build specs are: Leo 4082-2000kv, Seaking 180 and 4s2p .
    I have run it with an m545 and am wondering what other props I should try.
    I found no heat over 100 degrees after the maiden run.

    Thanks for any advice


    Chip
  • Chilli
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jan 2008
    • 3070

    #2
    What kind of speed did you get with the 545?

    Even though temps are good. I would be very cautions going too much bigger in prop with the 180. I've got a 447 you can try for giggles.
    Mike Chirillo
    www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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    • chipgibbs
      CG3
      • Aug 2012
      • 164

      #3
      chilli,

      I didn't have the GPS in the boat but, I'd estimate, about 45mph.
      The Revolt has an 1800kv motor on 4s and this Cheetah has a 2000kv 4082. It should be faster. I just haven't had enough time in the water to get it sorted out.

      I might find some water tomorrow for a run or two.

      Chip

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      • properchopper
        rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
        • Apr 2007
        • 6968

        #4
        Chip,

        I built a Cheetah for a customer with the Leo 4082 2000KV and a T-180 run on Dinogy 4S2P 5000 65C/130C packs. With an Oct 447/3 he went 57mph on the GPS but the T-180 was 165 deg. We switched out to a CC 240 and temps calmed down even after 4 minutes.

        My Cheetah with a Neu 1521 1.5D (1900KV) and a FCR 240A esc and the same packs and the X447/3 with no temp issues was near that speed by my estimate (I forgot the GPS) and next run I'm going to a 450/3 since I run that same setup in my 34"mono without issues.

        I have the prop up @ 3/16" off the sponson bottoms and + 3 deg to lift the hull out under power. Love those full throttle wheelies !!!

        Got bored yesterday (rained out) so added some tailfins

        DSC03911.JPG
        2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
        2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
        '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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        • chipgibbs
          CG3
          • Aug 2012
          • 164

          #5
          Tony....I copied that build. Not ready to shell out more money for a new ESC.

          Thanks for the response, I'll try the strut adjustment with the 447/3

          Chip

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          • properchopper
            rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
            • Apr 2007
            • 6968

            #6
            Here's how I have the strut adjusted for the 450/3 (447/3 in the picture). The higher the strut, as long as the blades get adequate bite, the less load on the motor/esc/batteries. You can, if you listen carefully, hear a properly venting prop.

            DSC03914.JPG
            2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
            2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
            '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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            • Chilli
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Jan 2008
              • 3070

              #7
              Here's is what a properly vented prop sounds like.............sorry, couldnt resist.

              Mike Chirillo
              www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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              • properchopper
                rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
                • Apr 2007
                • 6968

                #8
                Originally posted by Chilli
                Here's is what a properly vented prop sounds like.............sorry, couldnt resist.

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQF1aIC_xBA
                And one more (Mike, this is for You, - hope you're not missing her anymore but still the NAMBA P-Ltd Offshore Record holder if it'll make you feel any better )

                2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                • Chilli
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 3070

                  #9
                  I'm missing her but no regrets on the sale to you. Glad your putting her to good use!!
                  Mike Chirillo
                  www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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                  • chipgibbs
                    CG3
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 164

                    #10
                    Yup, That's how I want this Cheetah to run.

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                    • stadiumyamaha
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 1284

                      #11
                      I've had great luck on a similar build with a x642. It's normally my go-to prop for a new 4s build. Jmo
                      white geico w/2200kv 3674 leopard 53.5mph 4s2p, geico w/ 1800kv outrunner 52mph on 4s2p, genesis w/2200kv castle 53.8 on 4s2p, impulse 31 w/2200kv castle, stock p1 and ul-1

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                      • chipgibbs
                        CG3
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 164

                        #12
                        So I've been to the pond and clocked 47.2mph with the 447/3. Kind of a base line. Now to start making adjustments.

                        Chip

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                        • chipgibbs
                          CG3
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 164

                          #13
                          Tony & Chilli

                          I just noticed that the rear ride pads on the Cheetah hull are off the table 1/16" when the other 4 are touching. In Tony's set up photo, you can't see this.

                          Should the strut adjustment be above the table? OR above the rear most sponsons?


                          Chip

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                          • Chilli
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3070

                            #14
                            Hmmm. On my cats I want all the ride surfaces flat on the table. Some blueprinting might be in order. We'll see what Tony says.
                            Mike Chirillo
                            www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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                            • chipgibbs
                              CG3
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 164

                              #15
                              Ran it again this afternoon with strut raised a bit & a little positive angle. I also had the gps in it but, I flew it too fast and end overed. By the time I got the boat back,
                              30 min, The gps was off.....don't know why yet.

                              IMAG0864.jpg

                              Chip

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