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  • Mattwarner
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 487

    #1

    Which prop? 12s mono

    Hi guys

    Building a 46" deep v mono, running a Leo 5692 740kv on 12s with a 300a 16s esc and 1/4 drives, but what prop should I be spinning? I am after a sport setup and want things reliable, was thinking of something like an X452/3? But really have no idea

    Also there doesn't seem much selection for props for the 1/4 drive, should I go for a stepped down flex to 3/16?
    Last edited by Mattwarner; 06-05-2012, 04:40 AM.
  • Old Sloppy
    Harry from Atlanta
    • Jul 2007
    • 200

    #2
    Go with a stepped down flexcable. Your motor is a 10s, not a 12s, prop needs to be less diameter, around x646/3 or x447/3.
    In fact, with the proper prop you might settle on 9s.
    60" Expresscraft SuperCat
    (2) 2028 Castle motors 64.7 mph
    10s3p with x450/3 props
    15,000 mah 40c cells,

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    • Rumdog
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Mar 2009
      • 6453

      #3
      Go with a x457 minimum. Any smaller is useless, and won't efficiently push your hull

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      • martin
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Aug 2010
        • 2887

        #4
        I agree 100%, you want a larger diam prop on that size boat. Larger the diam the more efficient the prop will be to push a large boat like that. Obviously as Rumdog says you need to go down to a 2 blader to be able to turn larger props.

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        • Mattwarner
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 487

          #5
          Thanks, quite a few people are suggesting the x457 as a good starting off point

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          • Old Sloppy
            Harry from Atlanta
            • Jul 2007
            • 200

            #6
            Originally posted by Mattwarner
            Thanks, quite a few people are suggesting the x457 as a good starting off point
            Are these people suggesting a x457 with 12s and 740 KV ?

            Harry
            60" Expresscraft SuperCat
            (2) 2028 Castle motors 64.7 mph
            10s3p with x450/3 props
            15,000 mah 40c cells,

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            • Mattwarner
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 487

              #7
              Yep that's te one everyone so far has recommended to me, what's your thought? although I am going to start off on 9s and see how it goes.

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              • Old Sloppy
                Harry from Atlanta
                • Jul 2007
                • 200

                #8
                Originally posted by Mattwarner
                what's your thought? although I am going to start off on 9s and see how it goes.
                I am thinking about post #2

                Harry
                60" Expresscraft SuperCat
                (2) 2028 Castle motors 64.7 mph
                10s3p with x450/3 props
                15,000 mah 40c cells,

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                • cugino
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 136

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Old Sloppy
                  Go with a stepped down flexcable. Your motor is a 10s, not a 12s, prop needs to be less diameter, around x646/3 or x447/3.
                  In fact, with the proper prop you might settle on 9s.
                  Hi How do you know, 5692 740KV is 10S motor? With 12S it spins about 32000rpm and it seems still good for me? And higher Voltage means lower Amp draw with proper KV motor. So can anyone explain me, why 5692 740KV is 10S motor? Thanks.
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                  • Make-a-Wake
                    FE Rules!
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 5557

                    #10
                    In order to spin a "larger" prop..........457 or better, 10s seems to be the max to me as well. The 5692, as good as it is, is no Castle 2028. It will have trouble spinning a 457 on 12s. I recommend 10s and an x457, if 12s is settled on then the prop will be smallish for that hull...........55mm or less.
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                    • cugino
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 136

                      #11
                      Thank you for your reply.

                      If i understand, it means that 5692 740KV is too hot spinning X457 prop, right? Ok, then, what is max safe temperature for Leopard 5692 motors and where to measure (bearing, cooling jacket, front of motor?).

                      Sorry for offtopic, but does anyoune know?

                      THX.
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                      • Make-a-Wake
                        FE Rules!
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 5557

                        #12
                        I'd try to keep the temps below 140* on the endbell.
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                        • Old Sloppy
                          Harry from Atlanta
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 200

                          #13
                          Originally posted by cugino
                          higher Voltage means lower Amp draw with proper KV motor. So can anyone explain me, why 5692 740KV is 10S motor? Thanks.
                          2 items here:

                          "proper KV motor" take your chosen lipo cell count (12s) times 3.7 (volts) times Kv = RPM's
                          so 12*3.7*740= 32,856 RPM'S (TOO HIGH OF RPM'S FOR LONG LIFE OF THE MOTOR)
                          My 14s Lehner 2280/15 motor has 471 KV so 14*3.7*471= 24,397 rpm's ( this motor will last a long time)
                          and 10s 10*3.7*740= 27,380 rpm's ( long term performance without total destruction)
                          So the Proper cell count for your motor is 10s.

                          next item "higher voltage means lower amp draw"
                          the only way this happens is if you decrease (one or both) KV of the motor or less load (smaller prop + smaller hull too )
                          In theory .......6s with 3KW = 3,000/22.2= 135 amps
                          12s with 3KW= 3,000/44.4= 67.5 amps
                          Normaly ....... Higher volts = higher heat generated .
                          60" Expresscraft SuperCat
                          (2) 2028 Castle motors 64.7 mph
                          10s3p with x450/3 props
                          15,000 mah 40c cells,

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