Joysway seadrifter driving me flipping nuts

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  • sundog
    Platinum Card Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 878

    #16
    I have an easier fix. Looks like torque roll to me - hydro's are very susceptible to this effect. As soon as it leaves the water for whatever reason it will roll over quickly. Try stuffing half your battery (or more) into the left sponson and see if that alleviates the problem.
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    • flipper
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 16

      #17
      OK, I have obtained the fin from Astec models as per my above link. Question, where about on the rear of the starboard sponson do I put it ? Vertically, as low as possible ? Horizontally, close to the center or on the extreme edge of the sponson ?

      Cheers, Cam.

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      • pukpquango
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 16

        #18
        apologies for thread necro.... I have access to one of these tricky beasts..... Did the OP get any joy sorting the handling of this hydro ?

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        • flipper
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 16

          #19
          Nothing wrong with a bit thread necro :)

          I am embarrassed to say.... I still have the boat, I made the mods suggested above (turn fin, and shifting the battery) but I haven't yet tried it with the mods. Life got in the way, got married, moved house, etc.. That and I got it's big brother which is very nice. Maybe this summer, given it's ability to flip it doesn't get run in the winter because I don't like going for a dip to retrieve it in freezing water.

          Meanwhile I would suggest only using it on days when there isn't a ripple on the pond, it's far far move forgiving then.

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          • pukpquango
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 16

            #20
            all understandable. Be interested to see what happens when you do. I'm currently running a 100% success rate for flipping it, the twitchy little XXXX but the flips are getting further and further apart.... Always next time. Thankfully no swimming required. Club membership and a park pond means merely taking ones turn in the waders when others are in need

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            • flipper
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 16

              #21
              Haha, yes I also have to experience a trip out without flipping it. I was tempted to sell it but didn't because it is such an endearing and naughty little beggar. Boy does it go for it's size.

              I will keep you updated, I really do hope the mods work as despite it's flipping ability I would hate to see it go !

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              • pukpquango
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2014
                • 16

                #22
                Adding to the above.... Had this out for the first time in moths after a little fettling. Full disassembly and reassembly then gave the strut a tweak and got the desired result first time of asking. Didn't bother with a turn fin. The main problem now is going to be eliminating an irritating leak that managed to soak the radio, although no damage was done.
                Still need to be careful when crossing wakes, but it has transformed the little monster. That weather has markedly improved can't have hurt either. No flipping or spinning and ran straight as a die from the word go. For a boat 17 inches long, is it ever quick.....An attention getter for the driver and a head turner at the club. Under rated I'd say.

                Adjust the strut Flipper in small increments and see how the handling goes.

                The only remote moment of worry was when turning into the wind and even then, miles better.
                Last edited by pukpquango; 05-04-2014, 02:08 PM. Reason: better weather

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                • flipper
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 16

                  #23
                  Wow good news, so all you have changed is the prop strut ? Angle or depth, or both ?

                  Cam.

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                  • pukpquango
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 16

                    #24
                    Sorry for delay replying, I've been away from home for most of the last week.

                    Running the boat as supplied, I think the strut was right at the top of its travel depthwise, and more or less looked neutral in terms of angle. I took the approach of only adjusting one thing at a time, good whter it's a model car or boat - you make a change, test, make another change, wash rinse repeat as necessary..... I got lucky and seemed to hit a sweet spot with the first change - in this case shortening the strut. Visually the ride is now such the at speed the transom is clear of the water as is the all but the rear most portion of teh sponsons. More less no change in angle was required. I guess like all mass produced models, it depends on who bolted it together and how much care they took.

                    Whoever bolted this one together just parked it with the strut fully extended. One tweak and seems happy. I'll get one of the club camera buffs to snap it at speed and assess whether any further adjustment is needed.

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                    • flipper
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 16

                      #25
                      Understood and thanks again for the reply. If you get a chance a side on photo of the back end would be nice, like the 4th photo in my original post. Would help me compare things.

                      Cam.

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                      • pukpquango
                        Junior Member
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 16

                        #26
                        Originally posted by flipper
                        Understood and thanks again for the reply. If you get a chance a side on photo of the back end would be nice, like the 4th photo in my original post. Would help me compare things.

                        Cam.
                        Will endeavour to so. At the moment, the problems are .....

                        Bad build quality. The hull is cracking around the cooling water outlet, which appears to have been drilled with the bluntest drill in the factory by a worker with the skill of an orang utan. I prophesy an appointment with some epoxy and glass cloth in this hulls future. This is where the water was coming from.

                        Bad electronics. But not the speed controller which works just as well or badly as it ever did. Either the transmitter or the receiver has given up the ghost in a very pecuiiar way. Receiver powers up and binds, but no tone from the ESC and no servo control. Put a different radio reciever in the boat and everything works fine with the corresponding transmitter.

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                        • flipper
                          Junior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 16

                          #27
                          I actually shifted the water outlet on mine. The original position points it straight back into the water which I never like because you can't really see the water stream while the boat is running so you don't know if it's blocked etc.

                          Can't comment on the electronics, none of mine are original, actually come to think of it I suspect my original ESC packed up.

                          Cam.

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                          • bayareaheli
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 144

                            #28
                            Originally posted by flipper
                            Nothing wrong with a bit thread necro :)

                            I am embarrassed to say.... I still have the boat, I made the mods suggested above (turn fin, and shifting the battery) but I haven't yet tried it with the mods. Life got in the way, got married, moved house, etc.. That and I got it's big brother which is very nice. Maybe this summer, given it's ability to flip it doesn't get run in the winter because I don't like going for a dip to retrieve it in freezing water.

                            Meanwhile I would suggest only using it on days when there isn't a ripple on the pond, it's far far move forgiving then.
                            smaller prop will help out alot go down one size will help with the torque rolls :)

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