15"Offshore Warrior mono further mods+ short run

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  • martin
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Aug 2010
    • 2887

    #1

    15"Offshore Warrior mono further mods+ short run

    Further to previous mods & runs using my usual $12 450 outrunner & $20esc,Im now using an Octura x632 detongued & cupped at tips on 3s 60c-80c lipo. I have been using for the last 8 months cheapo Chinese .098 flexes to which i do run an awefull lot of times,Only had 1 break + a couple that ended with a slight snake so to speek at the coupling end between the coupling & stuffing tube. But this was with hundreds of runs during that time also putting a lot of strain on them with the boat going in at wot a lot of times along with the prop hitting the bottom of the lake bending blades but still never broke a flex during this. So decided id try the Octura .098 flexes, The Octura certainly felt a lot more flexy & plyable to the point that the cheapo ones would stay nearly straight if you held at one end horizontally where as the Octura would bend down under it own weight a couple of inches.I didnt feel comfortable with the feel of these shafts but thought its an Octura so it must be better.Sheared the flex on the first day with just over 2 batteries of running time (2200mah). Now going to rip everything out & go to .130 flexes, Not sure if theyll be Octura though. This is the run the shaft let go on. Martin.
  • Turbo Dan-O
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 292

    #2
    Dang you have that sucker flying!!!

    Dan-O
    Pursuit: T-180, TP 4060/1620kv. Genesis: T-180, GoolRC 2000kv. UL-1: Bone stock. MHZ Tsunami: Full tilt SAW project!

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    • sundog
      Platinum Card Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 878

      #3
      Sweet! The .130 should hold up nicely. It was just a little too much for the .098 methinks.
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      • martin
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Aug 2010
        • 2887

        #4
        Yes .098" is pushing things, Having said that i only had 1 flex break in hundreds of runs & that was cheapo Chinese ones that took massive amounts of stick. I was a bit surprised how easy the Octura one failed. The original flexes were only 090" with 3mm stub shaft running in ball races so i went to the Octura.098" that also had a slightly bigger stub shaft at 1/8" & also went to 1/8" ball races. Having seen how easy this particular flex failed im wondering how strong the Octura 130" ones are as their only .032" thicker. Im not sure whether the Octura flexes are wound differently to some other flexes as they deffinetally fell very plyable indeed, The diameter of the individual strands of wire their wound from is the same diameter as the other makes that i have though. Martin.

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        • RivRat34
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 21

          #5
          wow.. small thing flys.. LOCO!

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          • martin
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2010
            • 2887

            #6
            Have been running the larger .130" flex now a number of times & am really pleased with the results over the .098".Thought id also make a new strut to try the floating bush design (Speedmaster type bushing that floats & turns ) over my normal ball bearing ones. This type of design on small high reving boats (42000 rpm unloaded) is deff not as fast as my ball bearing struts.When i hit the throttle on the ball bearing ones the boat is much more aggresive & excelleration is much faster with the boat riding on the prop & very little of the hull in the water. Wot the boat is faster also.I done this trial before deciding whether to run ball bearing design in my Mini Sprint hydro or run it stock. Will deff be using ball bearings.The other design is simple & cheap to make but simply not as fast on my boats. Martin.

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            • Dangergus
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 14

              #7
              I always wondered about bearings vs. bushings. What bearings did you use on your .098" setup? I'm looking to upgrade my Gecko's and always wanted to try bearings.
              Thanks.

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              • martin
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Aug 2010
                • 2887

                #8
                Originally posted by Dangergus
                I always wondered about bearings vs. bushings. What bearings did you use on your .098" setup? I'm looking to upgrade my Gecko's and always wanted to try bearings.
                Thanks.
                1/8" id x 1/4" od x 3/32" wide.

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                • Dangergus
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 14

                  #9
                  Thanks. I'll look around for em and plan to redo my brass stuffing tube.
                  Do you have a pic of your current setup? Is there any advantage with the Warrior hull over the Mhz Gecko?

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                  • martin
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 2887

                    #10
                    I know nothing personally about the Gecko other than seeing several vids of them running & the ones i saw seem to bob up & down & jump quite a lot, Maybe they wernt set up right i dont know. Re the Warrior hull, Its a very fast hull that dosnt have many bad habits at all & you can push the speeds on them quite high. The Gecko is deff better made & stronger, If your looking for high speeds you deff wont a hull that runs stable & straight.

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                    • Alexgar
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 3534

                      #11
                      Can I get a link on the ball bearings in finishing up my velocity cat and may use the also

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                      • Rich
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 551

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dangergus
                        Thanks. I'll look around for em and plan to redo my brass stuffing tube.
                        Do you have a pic of your current setup? Is there any advantage with the Warrior hull over the Mhz Gecko?
                        I have a Gecko, it is a really really nice hull and is very durable. Martin your right, almost all the vids of the Gecko seem to be bouncy, they weren't set up right. I got mine to stay planted and hit 46mph on the radar gun. Setting it up was the hardest part.
                        24 R/C vehicles and still counting...What budget?

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                        • martin
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2887

                          #13
                          Rich what motor size & kv did you use & what voltage. Also prop size. Thanks Martin.

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                          • Rich
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 551

                            #14
                            Originally posted by martin
                            Rich what motor size & kv did you use & what voltage. Also prop size. Thanks Martin.
                            I have an ammo 28-35 3900kv in-runner, Seaking 35amp esc, 11.1v 2200 Skylipo 30c/60c burst, stock Octura x427 with no mods, motor and esc are water cooled as well. OSE mini strut and rudder, .098 flex from Octura, with a number ose-80100 motor mount. It self rights too. This setup has hit 114F on the motor and 116F ish on the esc. I think it has hit thermal shutdown twice, since then I have put the Dimension Engineering Sport Bec in an haven't had a problem. I have to say I am surprised it holds up. Big waves are fun!
                            24 R/C vehicles and still counting...What budget?

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                            • Dangergus
                              Junior Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 14

                              #15
                              I have 2 Gecko's and both running smooth. One has the stock drive line that I straightened out by raising up the prop to be level with the hull bottom then lowered the motor as much as possible. My 2nd, I changed to a .098 Octura flex and looks to be even smoother. I'm running Neu motors, 1105-3Y and orig on 9.6V Nimh's. On 2S they're a little slower so might bump up to the 2.5Y or 4.5D.

                              Any recommendations for a good 2S motor? I really like the Neu's.

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